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Opting out of MyHealthRecord scheme by 15th October

Post by BassLine » 10 Aug 2018, 10:57

Here's the link for those choosing to opt out of the governments new scheme MyHealthRecord. Deadline is 15th October 2018.

https://www.myhealthrecord.gov.au/for-y ... lth-record

Takes about 1 minute to complete - just have your Medicare Card and Drivers Licence/Passport handy.
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Re: Opting out of MyHealthRecord scheme by 15th October

Post by BassLine » 10 Aug 2018, 10:58

To understand what's happening, read these articles:

https://privacy.org.au/campaigns/myhr/


My Health Record privacy framework 'identical' to failed UK scheme, expert says
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.the ... xpert-says


https://www.afr.com/lifestyle/health/me ... 716-h12rk5

"If they don't opt out by October 15, a My Health Record will automatically be created for them.

People can always change their minds. If they opt out now, they can opt in later.

If they do nothing now and decide to opt out later, their record will be locked and stored until 30 years after their death."
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Re: Opting out of MyHealthRecord scheme by 15th October

Post by packrat » 10 Aug 2018, 11:05

Or you can follow the sequence.

1. people upset about government being jerks and releasing private records of people who upset them.
2. minister does talk show circuit screaming loudly that such a breach is *impossible*, and that the law has no such provision.
3. people point out law says it is possible, suggest boycott
3a minister. la la la
4. AMA points out law says it is, suggest boycott
4a. minister says "okay law will be changed sometime"

Unless there is a concrete change to the law and a public admission to deliberate lying by said minister, you should assume the entire mess is broken and corrupt. Also you should read this first dog cartoon.

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Post by packrat » 10 Aug 2018, 11:06

There wre some healthcare folks who were keenly interested in the records because they could be used for research, but it turns out the format chosen is useless for anything other than manual data entry, so whatever.

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Post by BassLine » 10 Aug 2018, 11:19

Fin Review article cont....
"Health data is gold dust," he says.

Petersen has just published the book, Digital Health and Technological Promise, and says about a third of all data breaches relate to health data, which is unsurprising given its sensitivity.

Apart from obvious security breaches, he says innocent breaches occur too.

Earlier this year Australia's Privacy Commissioner ruled that the federal Department of Health "unintentionally" breached privacy laws when it published de-identified health records of 2.5 million people online.

About 18 months earlier it published de-identified health data of 10 per cent of the population from the Medicare Benefits Scheme (MBS) and the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS) on the government's open data website for "research purposes".

By pinpointing unique aspects, researchers at the University of Melbourne were able to re-identify seven well-known Australians.
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Post by BazzBass » 10 Aug 2018, 13:19

thanks for the link
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Re: Opting out of MyHealthRecord scheme by 15th October

Post by irvinz » 11 Aug 2018, 11:19

As part of the healthcare industry. A one liner would be; a better diagnosis is always more likely, with all information at hand.

This will be for the good, not many countries out there have the right infrastructure to set this up, and excecuted it well. I would hope to see it succeed in Australia.

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Post by packrat » 11 Aug 2018, 12:30

irvinz wrote:
11 Aug 2018, 11:19
As part of the healthcare industry. A one liner would be; a better diagnosis is always more likely, with all information at hand.

This will be for the good, not many countries out there have the right infrastructure to set this up, and excecuted it well. I would hope to see it succeed in Australia.
Other things that are more likely.

1. Your health data sold to medical advertisers or lawyers who are trying to drum up business (has already happened with one the high-tier medical records access firms in australia),
2. your data sold to health insurance providers who jack your premiums sky high because of your (or a family member's) health history (already happening in the US, is going to happen more here), or
3. the government giving your private file to a newspaper if you criticise them (has so far happened with centrelink/disability files, but it's the same govenrment, so no reason to think it won't happen with the health records the minister was on every radio station shamelessly lying about the laws pertanining to)

As noted, these are not hypothetical situations, these are now.

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Post by irvinz » 11 Aug 2018, 13:00

I guess these things will be on the last things on our mind when we are sick. Just thought i’ll be a small lil voice sitting on the other side :)

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Re: Opting out of MyHealthRecord scheme by 15th October

Post by BazzBass » 11 Aug 2018, 13:18

irvinz wrote:
11 Aug 2018, 11:19
As part of the healthcare industry. A one liner would be; a better diagnosis is always more likely, with all information at hand.

This will be for the good, not many countries out there have the right infrastructure to set this up, and excecuted it well. I would hope to see it succeed in Australia.
with respect, it is NEVER a good idea to give your private personal info to an untested system whereby thousands of people will have access to it. That's BEFORE it gets hacked or stolen or sold. All three are highly likely.

Are you seriously suggesting we blindly trust our government bodies?

really? :rolf:
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Re: Opting out of MyHealthRecord scheme by 15th October

Post by veebass » 11 Aug 2018, 14:23

packrat wrote:
11 Aug 2018, 12:30

3. the government giving your private file to a newspaper if you criticise them (has so far happened with centrelink/disability files, but it's the same govenrment, so no reason to think it won't happen with the health records the minister was on every radio station shamelessly lying about the laws pertanining to)

As noted, these are not hypothetical situations, these are now.

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Yes and they got legal advice to say they could wilfully breach the privacy of a customer who was being troublesome in the media..
Shocked the pants off me after 40 years in the business being told privacy breaches were akin to heresy. I spent a year on a project sacking staff for privacy breaches.
I still reckon their legal advice wouldn't stand up.
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Post by packrat » 11 Aug 2018, 14:44

Based on the what happened to the them spying on Timor, anyone suing them would be arrested along with their lawyer, tried in a secret court, and disappeared.

Awesome.

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Re: Opting out of MyHealthRecord scheme by 15th October

Post by narcdor » 11 Aug 2018, 16:31

Just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean much, not until there is someone to test it or hold them to account.
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Re: Opting out of MyHealthRecord scheme by 15th October

Post by BassLine » 11 Aug 2018, 19:09

irvinz wrote:
11 Aug 2018, 13:00
Just thought i’ll be a small lil voice sitting on the other side :)
I respect that, and initially thought the same. But then I looked into the whole thing and quickly changed my mind.

Great reads here...
https://amp.news.com.au/technology/onli ... 1343dd4704

https://which-50.com/former-dta-ceo-sla ... l-out/amp/
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