MotoGP and World Superbikes are losing their appeal for me

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Re: MotoGP and World Superbikes are losing their appeal for me

Post by BazzBass » 28 Jul 2018, 15:48

Petebass wrote:
27 Jul 2018, 22:10
slave wrote:
27 Jul 2018, 20:28
MotoGP & Formula1 are pretty much exactly the same for me - and it's simply because the best team has the best rider/driver and they win everything for years on end. (yawn)

I reckon MotoGP & F1 could simply address this the same way horse racing does.
Weight.
Add weight to the winner for each race. Put the weight anywhere you like.
I reckon the top few would come back to the pack to a degree, making the racing a little more entertaining.
I see where you are coming from, but I don't agree. F1 and Moto GP are more than just about entertainment. They are also there to push the boundaries of engineering. The losers need to figure out how to go faster, not just wait until the winners get given enough weight tho take away their speed advantage.
I agree with Pete, however it IS boring, the fact Lewis won from 14th says it all.

I'd like to see less downforce, to support more overtaking, but also to test the drivers skills a bit. Let's face it, they are slot cars mostly. Make em use a manual gear shift too. They say F1 is for the best of the best drivers in the world, but they ARE NOT. the top 8 maybe, but the rest will never win a race
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Re: MotoGP and World Superbikes are losing their appeal for me

Post by Petebass » 28 Jul 2018, 18:29

I hear you Bazz. But I've always thought of F1 and Moto GP as a test of man and machine. If it's driver ability you want to be the main differentiator, I tend to go looking at one of the many race formats where everyone drives the came type of car. Porsche Carrera Cup for example. I guess my "gear nerd" status extends beyond bass equipment :)
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Re: MotoGP and World Superbikes are losing their appeal for me

Post by BazzBass » 29 Jul 2018, 13:26

one make races are ideal to gauge the best driver.

here's a radical idea. At pre season testing, the fastest car will become the one make car for the coming season. Each driver gets the exact same car.

I know I'm dreaming but I care less about which team is better than I do which driver is the best given that everything else is even.

PS 32 years after seeing Senna start his last minute quallifying lap at the Adelaide GP (sigh) with NO FRONT WING, and grab POLE is still the best driving display I've seen live.

None of today's drivers come close, they wouldn't be able to wrestle a car without power steering, traction control, electronic clutch, auto gears, outrageous downforce grip around a straight let alone a track lol. OL maybe they COULD, but we'll never know.


Side note: saw a car ad last night where the woman looks over admiringly at her man who managed to park his car by hitting a switch. What? she can't hit that switch but admires a man who can? what is this crap?
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Re: MotoGP and World Superbikes are losing their appeal for me

Post by slave » 29 Jul 2018, 21:38

BazzBass wrote:
28 Jul 2018, 15:48
....however it IS boring, the fact Lewis won from 14th says it all.
Exactly, the other cars aren't even close, outside of Ferrari, but even they struggle to keep up with the Merc's.

And this is why I'm suggesting adding a little weight to make it interesting.
I'm not suggesting we hobble the best cars to the point that they can't beat the midfield, we are talking about 800hp+ cars here, but just to make the top 3 or 4 teams a bit closer by seasons' close.

In F1 especially, and MotoGP to a lesser extent, the rule makers have been purposefully changing rules and restrictions to try and lessen the gap between the big teams and the midfield.
Some rules work, some don't. I don't see why adding a small incremental weight penalty would change much at all given the massive gulf between the best and the not-so-great.

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Re: MotoGP and World Superbikes are losing their appeal for me

Post by BazzBass » 30 Jul 2018, 14:53

I think Red Bull will ask Renault for a refund for the last engines they nought for Dan and Max lol. Max's outburst was hilarious and totally understandable.
i can't quote what he said coz even substituting symbols for the swear words is against forum rules :)
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Post by BazzBass » 01 Aug 2018, 13:22

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