Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by tearalong » 01 Feb 2018, 11:01

In the UK yesterday, a government minister was late for question time and missed a question from the opposition to him so a colleague had to take it. He apologised and offered his resignation.

What does it take for one or our ministers to apologise, let alone resign?
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by Aussie Mark » 01 Feb 2018, 11:16

Petebass wrote:
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 01 Feb 2018, 11:26

tearalong wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 11:01
In the UK yesterday, a government minister was late for question time and missed a question from the opposition to him so a colleague had to take it. He apologised and offered his resignation.

What does it take for one or our ministers to apologise, let alone resign?
It will take even more in the future.

Currently, we can't even get ours to answer questions. Cash is still in hiding despite four of her staff conveniently resigning.... yes three more have gone on the QT. The last Ministerial reshuffle also means she will be able to fob responsibility off to her junior Minister if we ever corner her.

The proposed foreign interference laws will apparently mean that journalists will face 5 years prison for even having material deemed to be able to cause harm to Australia's interests. Fifteen years if they publish it. Imagine someone as trustworthy as Dutton with that power.

We won't even get to ask the question of a Minister. Very concerning things are afoot.

Imagine if those laws were in place now. A whole lot of ABC people would be either heading for prison right now or the material that was carelessly left in a filing cabinet would have been quietly returned and we would never have known about it.

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 01 Feb 2018, 11:28

Aussie Mark wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 11:16
Petebass wrote:
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 03 Feb 2018, 08:03

As I said earlier, there are some very concerning things in the latest ASIO power grab.
A law should be specific to what it is aiming to do. A law supposedly designed to stop Chinese interference in politics should not be so broad it allows for prison time for people who come into the possession of government documents or reporters who report their contents. What sort of society are we living in? They should be not so broad that we have to rely on a character like Dutton doing the right thing and not misusing it for political advantage. (When has anyone ever seen Dutton pass up an opportunity to play politics?)

A couple of questions I thought of is not asked in the article- journos are obsessed with themselves and their own self importance. What happens to an opposition member who gets leaked a cabinet document to blow the whistle on government wrong doing. Or what happens after the Libs lose the next election and Labor has hold of all the cabinet documents relating to say, Manus and Nauru. We have seen a big crack down on public servants since Abbott was elected- now we are seeing a furtherance of that approach. Makes me wonder whether this is all to protect Abbott, Turnbull, Morrison and Dutton from what they have knowingly done on Manus and Nauru coming out after they lose the next election.

I am glad this has happened now. Perhaps it will allow those who should raise the questions that need to be raised to prosecute their case without tacky, juvenile wedge politics being applied and branded as some sort of traitors for not giving ASIO 100% of what they want every time.


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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by packrat » 03 Feb 2018, 10:36

And now Dutton wants popular election of judges, and presumably police next. We have a good example of where that goes over the pond.

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

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And now Dutton wants popular election of judges, and presumably police next. We have a good example of where that goes over the pond.
Yes some very disturbing developments.

I wonder about "people" such as Dutton who describe judges and magistrates as "lily livered" and "activists" and then crack it when a Muslim thug won't stand for the same judge or magistrate.

This government is setting new lows in dealing with the judiciary.

This is what happens when people like Dutton and his gang meet someone as weak as Turnbull.
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by BazzBass » 03 Feb 2018, 13:05

Turnbull is the most inept politician I have ever encountered. It is so funny when he meets 'the people', he has no empathy at all, zilch interest in how real people live. No idea. Weak willed party boi following orders on every single issue, 180 degree backflip on everything he supposedly believes in. he believes in him. that's it
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Post by veebass » 03 Feb 2018, 16:56

From the party that criticises Labor for wasting money.
We saw it in the last Federal election here- LNP money for men's sheds, boardwalks, all sorts of rubbish.

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 05 Feb 2018, 09:09

While on the topic of LNP curtailment of workers rights. They can't have a Eureka Flag on their clothing or equipment.
What sort of country is this?

From this morning's Australian.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/n ... 944a523dde

Copied in full to deny Rupert a few pesos.
Builders risk ban over Eureka flag

The Australian6:42AM February 5, 2018

EWIN HANNAN
Workplace EditorMelbourne
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Companies risk being banned from federal building work if employees display the Eureka flag or union slogans on employer-supplied clothing and equipment, including mobiles and hard hats, under Turnbull government restrictions on workers showing support for the CFMEU.
In a new directive, the Australian Building and Construction Commission has warned that employers will be in breach of the national construction code, and face being ineligible to tender for commonwealth building work, if they do not abide by “more stringent” limits on the display of union logos and mottos.
Unlike the previous code which said the display of union mottos or logos had to be significant for a breach to occur, the new code says the presence of a single union logo suggesting an employee must be a union member to work on site would be a breach.
The guidance material issued on January 30 says offending material includes “images generally attributed to, or associated with an organisation, such as the iconic symbol of the five white stars and white cross on the Eureka Stockade flag”.
It says mottos include “phrases that express an organisation’s guiding principle”, an organisation’s name, symbols, “signs, markings and indications”.

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Examples of the company-funded clothing and equipment include personal protective equipment, uniforms, tools, vehicles, mobile phones and first-aid boxes. The Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union said the directive showed the “same anti-union extreme ideology” was occurring under new ABCC commissioner Stephen McBurney who recently succeeded Nigel Hadgkiss.
Dave Noonan, the national secretary of the CFMEU’s construction division, said: “Based on this document, it would be OK to fly the North Korean flag, it would be OK to fly the ISIS flag, it would be OK to fly a swastika, but it would be forbidden to fly an Australian flag which represents the struggle for democracy and national independence.
“It just demonstrates what we have been saying all along which is the ABCC is not about industry reform, it’s not about productivity, it’s not about freedom of association, it’s a taxpayer-funded culture war against unionism in the industry.”
But Master Builders Association chief executive Denita Wawn said yesterday that employers would abide by the guidelines.
“The building code applies to employers, employees and their representatives,’’ she said.
“The law is the law and master builders will comply.”
An ABCC spokeswoman said the guidance material was designed to assist employers, unions and employees understand their obligations under the existing code and the previous code.
“These codes apply to building contractors and employers who opt to tender for projects involving funding from the Australian government.’’ she said.
“The guidance materials deal with obligations under the 2013 and 2016 codes that seek to ensure that employees are free to be, or not be, members of a union.” Examples of words or phrases on posters or signs that breached the 2013 Code: included “100% Union”, “no ticket, no start”, “no freeloaders”, “scab”, “rat”, “grub” or similar words to describe workers who chose not to be union members.
It says a significant display of material that may give the impression that a person must be a union member to work on a project may be a breach of the 2013 Code.
“Unlike the requirements in the 2013 Code, the display of building association logos, mottos or indicia does not have to be voluminous or large scale,’’ the guidance says.
“The presence of one of these items on equipment supplied by, or for which provision is made, by the employer is a breach of the 2016 code.”
Mr Noonan questioned the motivation of the ABCC.
“What public purpose does this serve?’’ he asked.
‘‘The sanction that lies behind this is the threat of the government blacklisting contractors from tendering for government projects. It’s an extraordinary level of intervention.
“If anyone had any illusions that the sort of partisan behaviour we saw under Nigel Hadgkiss, and for which he was finally exposed when he was caught breaking the law, was going to change under Mr McBurney, then this document, issued since he commenced his role, clearly demonstrates that same extreme anti-union ideology still pervades the organisation under his leadership.
“People like Derryn Hinch and Nick Xenophon were warned this was the sort of approach that would be taken. They voted for the ABCC bill and they should be ashamed of themselves.”
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 05 Feb 2018, 09:47

The best "it's Labor's fault" yet. The figures just do not support what Keenan is saying.
However, Human Services Minister Michael Keenan said the coalition was cleaning up a mess created by Labor.

"The previous Labor government slashed the department's average staffing level and caused call-wait times to balloon," Mr Keenan said.
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by BazzBass » 05 Feb 2018, 10:23

seriously, until we start marching in the streets they will thumb their noses at us


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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 05 Feb 2018, 16:44

Hmm... no big surprise. The new Liberal Senator likes Britain First.

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 06 Feb 2018, 06:48

I was involved in this and may have mentioned it obliquely before here. If Labor wins office Federally, this is where it will take Australia's environmental laws.
Its work helped inform a motion passed by 250 Labor branches calling on the Labor leader, Bill Shorten, to put stronger national environmental laws and the introduction of an independent watchdog at the centre of his election pitch.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ental-laws
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