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Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 06 Dec 2016, 04:50

Well here we go "everything on the table" again, like Malcolm's great tax reform adventure. :rolf:

This does show, however, how effective and well organised the representatives of the fossil fuel industry in our parliament have been in discrediting the need to address the issue in a serious fashion.

The real fight will be within the Coalition obviously, and it will be a doosey if the review comes up with what it should. Any decent proposals coming from the review would pass the Senate with the support of Labor and or the The Greens. I just doubt that there will be any decent proposals.

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Until immigration levels are returned to more sustainable levels then emissions targets have no chance of being met.

"Current immigration rates into Australia, and associated projected population growth, will make greenhouse gas emissions targets even more difficult to achieve in the future, a University of Adelaide-led study has found"

https://www.adelaide.edu.au/news/news85462.html

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Mmmmmm a billion delicious public dollars stuffed into the pocket of a foreign, environment-destroying businessman.

Superior economic management right there.
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Clusterpod wrote:Mmmmmm a billion delicious public dollars stuffed into the pocket of a foreign, environment-destroying businessman.

Superior economic management right there.
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NotTheFish wrote:Until immigration levels are returned to more sustainable levels then emissions targets have no chance of being met.

"Current immigration rates into Australia, and associated projected population growth, will make greenhouse gas emissions targets even more difficult to achieve in the future, a University of Adelaide-led study has found"

https://www.adelaide.edu.au/news/news85462.html
This article fails to answer the number one question that it poses...
"How do immigrants increase the per capita energy usage?"

Are immigrants more wasteful than native Aussies?
hmmm... must be ... :crazy:
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by Aussie Mark » 06 Dec 2016, 11:17

PilbaraBass wrote:This article fails to answer the number one question that it poses...
"How do immigrants increase the per capita energy usage?"
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

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PilbaraBass wrote:
NotTheFish wrote:Until immigration levels are returned to more sustainable levels then emissions targets have no chance of being met.

"Current immigration rates into Australia, and associated projected population growth, will make greenhouse gas emissions targets even more difficult to achieve in the future, a University of Adelaide-led study has found"

https://www.adelaide.edu.au/news/news85462.html
This article fails to answer the number one question that it poses...
"How do immigrants increase the per capita energy usage?"

Are immigrants more wasteful than native Aussies?
hmmm... must be ... :crazy:
The article is talking about the result of increased population. Immigration being there area where the biggest increase in Australia comes from. The more people we have, the more difficult it will be to achieve the target. I don't think it takes a Uni professor to work that out.

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Post by PilbaraBass » 06 Dec 2016, 16:04

^In terms of "per capita" it is confusing... and hence it fails to make any sense...
Why does more people = more "per capita" usage ??
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Aussie Mark wrote:
PilbaraBass wrote:This article fails to answer the number one question that it poses...
"How do immigrants increase the per capita energy usage?"
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ahh... now it all makes sense ... :lol:
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PilbaraBass wrote:^In terms of "per capita" it is confusing... and hence it fails to make any sense...
Why does more people = more "per capita" usage ??
Infrastructure development, utility delivery, transport.

As population increases and cities grow, these processes become less efficient resulting in larger footprints per capita.
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 07 Dec 2016, 06:55

Ho hum.....yesterday it was all on the table (yeah, sure it was).

A few rantings later from Bernardi, Abbott etc and gone. A pointless review.

My word, Malcolm is on a short leash.

BTW- "post truth" seems to have arrived. Both Parties promised an ETS for the 2007 election- presumably Turnbull supported the Howard policy of the day. Later Malcolm did support Rudd's carbon proposal- the CPRS- also an ETS- it was what cost him his job as Opposition Leader in the first place. Rudd's plan (a cap and trade scheme) and Gillard's subsequent compromise plan with The Greens have both subsequently always been described as a carbon tax by the Coalition.

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stor ... tax_071216

EDIT:
Catherine Murphy puts it pretty bluntly.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... frydenberg
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 07 Dec 2016, 07:09

Malcolm will be too busy for this, like the gold card stuff he hasn't gotten to.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-07/p ... ss/8097030
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 07 Dec 2016, 09:47

An unusually fact filled discussion on 2GB about the Adler Shotgun debacle. That discussion starts a few minutes in.

http://www.2gb.com/audioplayer/223106
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by slave » 07 Dec 2016, 12:27

NotTheFish wrote:Immigration being there area where the biggest increase in Australia comes from. The more people we have, the more difficult it will be to achieve the target.
I'm not too worried about the target to be honest, no govt. on either side of politics is going to reach it anyway, not even the modest target we already have in place. More likely they'll just fiddle the figures like they do with the unemployment numbers. I'm not cynical at all. ;)

I like the idea of more immigration, we need more young bodies to pay for the ageing population, so us aussies in our 20's and 30's don't get taxed back to the stone age trying to support the baby boomers welfare system in their crumbly years.

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