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Thicknesses?

Post by Curto » 10 Mar 2018, 16:23

A question for the builders:
What final thickness do you take your:
Fingerboards down to before you cut the fret slots?
Neck blanks?
Body blanks?
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Re: Thicknesses?

Post by SneakyJak » 10 Mar 2018, 18:07

For bodies I tend to go really thick so I can carve a radius. Current build started 57mm.

My Tele build started at about 43-45mm and sand down to roughly 42mm. My current Tele build is around 38mm because it’s a 50’s spec.

I think from memory the last few fretboards were 8mm rough.

Neck thickness varies from where I get it but the last stewmac neck was around 29mm

for my finished necks I like 21mm at the first fret 23mm at the 12th fret

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Post by Phil » 11 Mar 2018, 12:38

If you're looking for finished dimensions of the blanks before they're glued and worked on:

Fingerboard: usually comes around 8mm, final thickness once radiused and sanded a little above 6mm (1/4")
Fender style neck 19mm (3/4")
My Fender style bodies are around 41-43mm,(1 5/8") I think Fenders are 1 3/4" though

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Re: Thicknesses?

Post by drbass » 11 Mar 2018, 13:35

Hi Paul,

Board: when finished I aim for about 5 mm in the centre (less at the edge because radiussed) to give me more material in the actual neck;
Neck: generally aim for between 20 and 21 at fret 1, and between 23 and 24 at fret 12. That means I have 15-16 mm of actual neck and don’t need to worry about hitting the truss rod or carbon rods 😉;
Body: bit more complex. Since I layer most of the time I get the “meat” to about 40 mm, then glue contrast layer and/or top on and take off material from the back down to about 39. That gives me a little bit to play with for sanding, and I end up at around 38 final thickness.

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Post by slowlearner » 11 Mar 2018, 15:32

Curto wrote:
10 Mar 2018, 16:23
A question for the builders:
What final thickness do you take your:
My answers in bold...

Fingerboards down to before you cut the fret slots?
Last one was 8mm, but I have gone as thin as 5mm on a dead flat board.

On a related note, I don't mind leaving my boards a little thicker, because the truss rod is right under them.

Neck blanks?
18mm. I used to make em thicker, but it's a waste of timber.

Body blanks?
20mm, or less.

If you're neck blank is 18mm, your body can be the same thickness I reckon and still be more than strong enough. This is probably a pet obsession of mine at the mo. It has consequence for electronics, but I reckon it's worth the effort for weight and sound. Either that, or chamber the heck out of it.
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Re: Thicknesses?

Post by Curto » 11 Mar 2018, 17:41

Thanks guys. Most helpful information.
I'm up to the fretboard in my build stage. Currently at around 8mm. Thinking of a flat radius.
Fret slots cut and frets installed before or after gluing to the neck?
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Post by drbass » 11 Mar 2018, 19:54

Depends. If you have a jig cut first, fret later. If you hand-cut you can either cut first (and fiscard if it didn’t work) or later.

Always fret with board glued ot neck.

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Re: Thicknesses?

Post by Curto » 19 Mar 2018, 09:37

Just finished gluing and thicknessing this laminated neck blank. Image

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Post by slowlearner » 19 Mar 2018, 18:52

Curto wrote:
11 Mar 2018, 17:41
Thanks guys. Most helpful information.
I'm up to the fretboard in my build stage. Currently at around 8mm. Thinking of a flat radius.
Fret slots cut and frets installed before or after gluing to the neck?
I cut mine, after gluing, but before I trim the neck down.
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Post by drbass » 19 Mar 2018, 19:48

This laminate looks very tidy, Paul, no glue line visible at all, perfect - what are the timbers here?

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Re: Thicknesses?

Post by Curto » 20 Mar 2018, 12:26

It looked a real mess before planning it down! Not 100% happy with it yet. It was uneven going into the thicknesser and still a little off and just 2mm left to take off.
5 strips of padauk and 2 strips of maple here. I've noticed this padauk is more prone to splinters and spilts than my last piece. Note to self to take care.
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Post by drbass » 20 Mar 2018, 15:07

Padauk? Wow, looks so different to what I have as tops.

Agreed - while I generally found it a nice timber to work with I found that in the "right spots" (i.e. on edges with the grain in the wrong orientation) it sort of flakes off quite easily.

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Michael
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Re: Thicknesses?

Post by SneakyJak » 20 Mar 2018, 16:24

drbass wrote:
20 Mar 2018, 15:07
Padauk? Wow, looks so different to what I have as tops.

Agreed - while I generally found it a nice timber to work with I found that in the "right spots" (i.e. on edges with the grain in the wrong orientation) it sort of flakes off quite easily.

Regards,
Michael
I like the look of it so much the bass Tom is making me has a padauk and walnut neck. I think it’s under used.

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Post by drbass » 20 Mar 2018, 17:34

SneakyJak wrote:
20 Mar 2018, 16:24
drbass wrote:
20 Mar 2018, 15:07
Padauk? Wow, looks so different to what I have as tops.

Agreed - while I generally found it a nice timber to work with I found that in the "right spots" (i.e. on edges with the grain in the wrong orientation) it sort of flakes off quite easily.

Regards,
Michael
I like the look of it so much the bass Tom is making me has a padauk and walnut neck. I think it’s under used.
That is just so wrong, Pete :poke: ;) .

Regards,
Michael
- Merlin “Kermit” 6 multi, Merlin Gaia 6 fretless, Merlin Rockmachine 5, Merlin NT5, Manta 5, Manta 5 YOLO, ("Red Baron" 5), Q 5, (Sandberg Classic S2-5), (Thumb-4)
- Genzler Magellan 800, 2 Genzler BA12-3

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Re: Thicknesses?

Post by SneakyJak » 20 Mar 2018, 19:02

drbass wrote:
20 Mar 2018, 17:34
SneakyJak wrote:
20 Mar 2018, 16:24
drbass wrote:
20 Mar 2018, 15:07
Padauk? Wow, looks so different to what I have as tops.

Agreed - while I generally found it a nice timber to work with I found that in the "right spots" (i.e. on edges with the grain in the wrong orientation) it sort of flakes off quite easily.

Regards,
Michael
I like the look of it so much the bass Tom is making me has a padauk and walnut neck. I think it’s under used.
That is just so wrong, Pete :poke: ;) .

Regards,
Michael
He thinks he same thing but you saw the Blackwood I’m not game to hook into a piece of wood that expensive

Anyway .. excellent choice :)

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