Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

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Re: Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

Post by slowlearner » 07 Jan 2018, 15:57

Related question...
What are you using for strings?
How long ago did you change your strings?
What settings are you finding yourself frustrated with the B3 EQ settings? Gig, rehearsal, practice?

I'm not saying that a pedal won't fix your issue, but past experience has shown me it's often just a fraction of the problem. And as you said yourself, you're often going down a rabbit hole once you start trying them.
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Re: Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

Post by ozrider » 07 Jan 2018, 16:12

slowlearner wrote:
07 Jan 2018, 15:57
Related question...
What are you using for strings?
How long ago did you change your strings?
What settings are you finding yourself frustrated with the B3 EQ settings? Gig, rehearsal, practice?

I'm not saying that a pedal won't fix your issue, but past experience has shown me it's often just a fraction of the problem. And as you said yourself, you're often going down a rabbit hole once you start trying them.
All good points. I use nickel Ken Smith burners, I change strings every 4 months but I don't play that regularly and share the load between the stingray and the bb (both KSB strings). I think what I notice about the B3 as the EQ just isn't that powerful compared to say when I tweak on the amp or on the onboard pre of the stingray. I kinda want that type of EQ response - just so decisive. So I was initially thinking of putting in an onbaord pre, which is kinda what I'm comfortable with. Then I thought maybe it would be cheaper to just whack a preamp pedal in the chain, because I've been using the b3 and when I play with patches on the B3 it all sounds a little meh when you try to tweak them, so I'm wondering if that's adding to the fact I don't think my slap tone is that punchy.

Maybe you are right, and I'm spinning my wheels. I think some more time with the B3 needed perhaps. No use spending cash to regret it later. I'm surprised how expensive a lot of these pedals are these days anyway :shrug:

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Re: Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

Post by slowlearner » 07 Jan 2018, 17:10

The patches on the B3 are pretty adjustable. I think it's just a matter of choosing the right ones. For your slap tone, for instance, there's no reason why you couldn't use 2 parametric EQ patches in a row. That would get you 4 very flexible frequency centres to mess with. Add one of the compressors to that and you'd be pretty close I would say. The M-comp patch is an MXR clone.
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Re: Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

Post by maxgroover » 07 Jan 2018, 17:40

Have you checked out the Zoom B3 as a Preamp threads on TB?

If not, PM me your email address and I'll send you a PDF summary of the salient parts of that thread.

I was finding similar issues to you with the B3 until I applied the changes from the TB thread. Now I use it every gig :thumbup:
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Re: Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

Post by ozrider » 07 Jan 2018, 21:05

maxgroover wrote:
07 Jan 2018, 17:40
Have you checked out the Zoom B3 as a Preamp threads on TB?

If not, PM me your email address and I'll send you a PDF summary of the salient parts of that thread.

I was finding similar issues to you with the B3 until I applied the changes from the TB thread. Now I use it every gig :thumbup:
I did the same type of thing going through those threads but I was more interested in various synth and tube effects then. I will PM you
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Re: Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

Post by ozrider » 07 Jan 2018, 21:09

slowlearner wrote:
07 Jan 2018, 17:10
The patches on the B3 are pretty adjustable. I think it's just a matter of choosing the right ones. For your slap tone, for instance, there's no reason why you couldn't use 2 parametric EQ patches in a row. That would get you 4 very flexible frequency centres to mess with. Add one of the compressors to that and you'd be pretty close I would say. The M-comp patch is an MXR clone.
Ok will try that... thanks! :yep

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Re: Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

Post by WestOfBen » 08 Jan 2018, 11:52

MXR M-80 user here. The thing is killer. I wonder if a Trace Elliot Transit-B would fit your description. I personally stay away from SansAmp, only because I am not find of the SansAmp sound.
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Re: Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

Post by ozrider » 08 Jan 2018, 12:44

WestOfBen wrote:
08 Jan 2018, 11:52
I wonder if a Trace Elliot Transit-B would fit your description.
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Re: Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

Post by ozrider » 08 Jan 2018, 12:48

Found Terry demoing the B3 - if Terry can get a slap sound he likes :hmm


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Re: Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

Post by FunkyJase » 15 Jan 2018, 16:21

ozrider wrote:
06 Jan 2018, 15:21
Now that I'm here, I'm wondering whether my Bergantino 12 inch speaker (CN112) would be manifestly different from running a 210 cab (CN210).
A cab with a horn would greatly improve your slap tone :-)
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Re: Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

Post by benhill1982 » 15 Jan 2018, 19:10

CN112 has a horn - and it can get super bright as well.
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Re: Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

Post by ozrider » 15 Jan 2018, 20:37

benhill1982 wrote:
15 Jan 2018, 19:10
CN112 has a horn - and it can get super bright as well.
Yes indeed :yep

I'm currently still going with fiddling around with the B3 settings rather than buying a new preamp.

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Re: Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

Post by jcburn » 15 Jan 2018, 21:51

jamiesdad wrote:
07 Jan 2018, 06:53
I have been using a mxr m80+ ... heaps of punch with a 3 band eq
I agree with this....the Color button engages a slap contour with a broad boost around 90hz and 3khz and a scoop at around 800hz. Very musical and punchy....also has a steep roll off below 40hz and above 5khz to tighten sound. You can dial back in the mids a fair bit if required with the mid knob. Has a clean channel, 1\4 inch out, clean DI out and a parallel out.
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Re: Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

Post by brucebruce » 15 Jan 2018, 22:41

Bass Witch IQ DI... pretty amazing unit - I owned one briefly. Worked well with the BB 1000s I was playing at the time.
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Re: Clean Bass Preamp recommendations

Post by kat888 » 20 Jan 2018, 07:45

The DG Vintage Ultra is a pretty decent clean pre. You could also look at the Empress ParaEQ.
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