Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 27 Feb 2018, 11:52

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Just the line or business for someone being spoken about as a future leader of the Nats.
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by BazzBass » 27 Feb 2018, 12:42

Dear Aussie Mark,

Pete explained that you were referring to " Greek " as a sexual slang word, and I totally missed it.

I sincerely apologise to you for completely misreading your intentions. I'm not gonna offer any excuse except that it touched a very raw nerve for me from my past, nothing to do with you at all.

I have enjoyed some great conversations with you and I hope this hasn't turned you against me.

I hope you can forgive me

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 28 Feb 2018, 06:51

Here was I thinking that the media failed to cover the Joyce situation because there was no proof ..................

Interesting aside in this story, too.
Last week, well after the horse had bolted, the Telegraph’s Sharri Markson wrote:
In the lead up to the New England by-election in December 2017, there were crisis talks between the offices of the Prime Minister and the Deputy Prime Minister about how to handle the scandal of Joyce’s relationship with Vikki Campion, should it break.
It [the relationship] had the potential to expose the Deputy Prime Minister to accusations of hypocrisy and render him vulnerable to a character assassination by opponents just as he was heading into a by-election, on which the fate of the Turnbull Government would rest.
The PM has denied asking Joyce about the issue until it broke in the Telegraph long after the bye election was over.
He is very likely either lying and hiding behind the no one told me defence again ( Cash's leaks to the media).

It is time the media went hard on Turnbull doing the Sgt Shultz again.

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 28 Feb 2018, 10:56

Cash is a piece of work..... have a read and watch the video of her disgraceful performance in Senate Estimates.

The Minster For Women effectively cast shame over all women working for Bill Shorten today when she said.
"If you want to start discussing staff matters be very, very careful. Because I'm happy to sit here and name every young woman in Mr Shorten's office about which rumours in this place abound. If you want to go down that path today I will do it."
Quite extraordinary given she was actually being asked about her staff who may have illegally leaked information and nothing about their moral behaviour.

Even stranger was this is from the Party who until Malcolm became a moral crusader last Thursday were saying this type of thing is personal business.

BTW feel free to find me one quote from Labor that condemns Joyce on moral grounds.

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Post by veebass » 28 Feb 2018, 15:56

Hmm.... more dancing around the definition of partner and we are paying for it.

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Post by jezzamac » 28 Feb 2018, 16:03

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Hmm.... more dancing around the definition of partner and we are paying for it.

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Post by veebass » 01 Mar 2018, 06:25

Now Michael Sukkar reckons Cash was justified in slurring the women who work for Bll Shorten, simply because Cameron was trying to get to the bottom of the bizarre staff moves in her office (last I heard four had gone since the leak). Clearly relevant to the question of the leak to the media about politically motivated the AFP raids on union offices.

Even Tony criticised Cash, saying it was "clearly a brain snap".

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/ ... n-comments

BTW there are now reports of Michael Keenan's office also being involved in the media leak.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/aliceworkman/r ... .qs8JDZZJm

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Post by veebass » 01 Mar 2018, 06:54

^ What is really disturbing about the threats Cash made yesterday was that, unless Turnbull condemns her, it is the start of the use of rumours of affairs as weapons by the government. This will end badly for them. What is the best possible outcome they can get? Let's assume there is something in this and the government is able to exploit it effectively (something I doubt they are competent to do). Shorten resigns in disgrace. Labor replaces him with a more popular option.

Labor politicians at no stage made a political weapons out of the Joyce affair. They were at pains to confine their attack to Joyce's ministerial performance and the issues of possible patronage and misuse of public money. In the end, Turnbull made the Joyce issue about his affair in his extraordinary about face last Thursday, after previously saying it was his personal business,. He managed to adopt two diametrically opposed wrong positions on the same issue!

During that time several Liberals, including a female cabinet Minister (Bishop) obliquely slurred Shorten and Burke on a moral level. This was even before last Thursday, when Turnbull inexplicably changed direction and became a "political puritan", so there was clearly already an appetite among cabinet ministers to get into the gutter on this issue. Turnbull has given them the green light Perhaps they figure it is their only chance and that is why every government interview seems to include a section in which Bill Shorten's character is attacked..

Unsurprisingly, we now have another female cabinet Minister (Cash) threatening to peddle rumours from behind the protection of parliament. We have a junior minister overnight backing her up.

Turnbull needs to shut this down for his own good. From a political perspective, this favours Labor. He seems not to realise his government's popularity rises when nothing at all is happening (like over the Xmas break) and it drops again when they start talking and it plummets when they get caught up in issues like this. The very day after they clear Joyce's wreckage off the road, Cash blocks it again with her wreck. This plays right into Labor's hands.

Turnbull's legendary poor political judgement in action again. Maybe it is actually Lucy- he seems to reference her very often.
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by Aussie Mark » 01 Mar 2018, 08:27

It's a huge can of worms for both parties if who they shag becomes a political football. Bishop has built her career by bonking rich older blokes and tossing them aside when she's finished with them - her previous long term boyfriend now lives in his car in an office car park, which doesn't make sense at all given his high profile in local politics and his long career as a medical specialist. Did she take him to the cleaners?

And then there's the Bob, Carol, Ted and Alice swinging safari style of the ALP - most of them have been partnered up with one of their colleagues at some point in their career - Emmo/Julia, Wong/Weatherall, Combet/Parke, Albo/Tebbutt etc etc

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 01 Mar 2018, 12:21

Obviously, making "communist" inferences is a joke, but hitting back with a "Hitler Youth" reference is offensives.

James Patterson just confirmed everything I had heard about him. I never want to hear about "lefties" and their confected outrage again. LOL.

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by BazzBass » 01 Mar 2018, 12:26

stop taking pot shots at each other AND GET ON WITH RUNNING THE COUNTRY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD

OUR MONEY IS GOING INTO THESE POINT SCORING CONTESTS..

This has to be the worst bunch of selfish politicians in our history. nothing is getting done, corporate taxes keep falling, pensioners can't afford electricity, the working poor is now a reality not just an American thing.

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 01 Mar 2018, 12:50

^ I assume you are talking about the government as the Opposition doesn't run the country.

The government's chief grub couldn't keep away. He had to have a go at Shorten and Burke's personal lives.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... 4z29h.html

Perhaps he should explain why his mate has sat around on suspension for so long and been paid $500K for doing nothing..
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Post by veebass » 01 Mar 2018, 15:05

I heard it all today in Question Time. Shorten asked Turnbull to make her apologise to the women she smeared. He refused and excused Cash's behaviour saying she had been provoked and bullied by Senator Cameron. Turnbull is a joke.

Apparently, they are also providing her with a security shield so the media can't get at her. Cash is a joke.

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 01 Mar 2018, 15:19

Joyce- always thinking ahead.
Making sure the taxpayer pays for his sloppiness.
The $98,000 in spending between August 14 and October 27 last year represented a dramatic jump in Mr Joyce's usual spending on the entitlement, which MPs use to pay for pamphlets, mailouts, websites and local advertising.
He spent more on the entitlement in those 74 days - when a byelection in his northern NSW seat of New England loomed as a real possibility - than in the first six months of the year.
Earlier expense records dating back to 2014 show Mr Joyce has historically spent between $9000 and $50,000 over three-month periods on the allowance.
Once Mr Joyce was ruled ineligible by the High Court on October 27 he lost access to the entitlement, with the Nationals then forced to pick up the tab for byelection advertising and campaign material.
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