Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 16 Jan 2018, 08:35

noplanb wrote:
16 Jan 2018, 08:16
I would extend that to groups such as Hizb ut-Tahrir, connected to language and means of violence, active and allowed in Australia, but who are banned in Indonesia (July 2017), Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Uzbekistan.
https://www.counterextremism.com/threat/hizb-ut-tahrir
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017 ... s-hti.html

This brings up the argument that "the law that bounds the exact amount of free speech has not yet been invented" (to modify a quote from EM Forster). If you ban left, right and centre, you send groups underground. But without the fertile ground of the disenfranchised, disturbed and dejected, groups such as this and the neo's wither on the vine.
It is an argument for inculcation of national moral spirit.......

I also have never understood why Hizb ut-Tahrir is not a banned organisation in Australia.
One the second point, I think at the extreme ends it is not so difficult. It is more difficult further away from the extremes. I think allowing this kind of stuff gives it a legitimacy and emboldens them. Goes back to my point about the Coalition being soft on One Nation. That is what we are seeing now. I don't care if they go underground.
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 16 Jan 2018, 14:04

No wonder there has been no disclosure since Labor lost office.

Also no wonder Niki Savva is such a loyal Turnbullite- her partner is a Turnbull staffer.

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 16 Jan 2018, 14:44

Noel Pearson on the scuttling of The Voice proposal. Long but well worth the read. We watched Turnbull fail in his attempt to peddle his lie on Q & A.when questioned by the wonderful Teela Reid last December. A weak and small man who failed the test. https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/201 ... n/betrayal
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 18 Jan 2018, 06:10

It's all well and good to have a cheap political slap at Labor State Premiers from the safety of Canberra when there is no one to argue back present (seems to be standard for the current Federal government), but not such a good idea when you are standing right next to them announcing something else. Perhaps Turnbull should have asked Frydenberg how well it went for him.

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 21 Jan 2018, 14:58

This is what happens when you dump a reasonable minister for no good reason.

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 23 Jan 2018, 12:30

How desperate are Turnbull and Dutton ! :rollno:
The leak appears to have gone to several Australian news publications and questions over whether the sting was politically motivated have risen again, with suggestions the leak might reflect an Australian Government frustrated with Ardern's position on asylum seekers.
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 27 Jan 2018, 13:03

While we are consumed with our annual dose of self righteousness and the annual argument about the date of Australia Day (whichever side of that annual debate you are on), have a read of the couple of stories below. They do actually matter, if you work and intend to retire one day. Low wage growth has already affected you and will continue to do so.
At the same time, have a little think about why wage growth has flatlined and job security declined while the rich are just getting richer. Shouldn't be too hard to join the dots. These are not unrelated.

First story. Pretty standard pro union fare about the "interesting" decision of FWDC Jonathon Hamberger (remember that name for the next story) to deny workers their lawful right to withdraw their labour in a "protected bargaining period". - but worth a read for an understanding of the decision. Note the story does not explore Hamberger's interesting background..
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... MP=soc_567

Here's the kicker.
Here's a story from 2007 about Howard political appointments- Mr Hamberger gets a good mention
https://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/29/th ... ointments/

A little story I found from 2004 because I remembered Hamberger's name from many years ago, when he was involved with Reith in the dockyard actions in 1998 at Patricks and I remembered him getting stuck into Labor as the Employment Advocate..
Mr Hamberger, who was once an adviser to former workplace minister Peter Reith, is one of two conservative appointments to the commission.
http://fddp.theage.com.au/articles/2004 ... m=storylhs

Another one about Hamberger's crusade in the construction union.
https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/no ... partiality

Coincidence that we now have pitiful wage growth, poor job security and now no right to strike at all?
Yeah, right, keep telling yourself that and get back to the annual argument about what date we will have a national holiday on. This has been the plan since Hewson unveiled Fightback!

I thought it was ALMOST funny that Morrison continued to pedal his wage growth fairy tale while the very reason for this problem was playing out at FWC courtesy of one of his Party's plants.
I know both sides make appointments. This has all gone too far to the right now (happens when one party governs for most of the last two decades) and severe action by workers will be required to pull it back as they struggle to make ends meet and address low wage growth and low job security. I am seeing a lot of calls in union circles for the return of old but effective worker tactics- secondary boycotts etc.
Hopefully, young people will see they have to actually fight for their rights, because they will not trickle down to them.
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 30 Jan 2018, 07:05

The stats seem pretty clear and yet still Willox says.
“More industrial action will be damaging to the economy. The last thing that the community needs is for the unions to be given even more power to take industrial action.”
Truth is low wage growth is more damaging.


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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by packrat » 30 Jan 2018, 07:36

Wage growth blamed on employers by the well-known radial labourite, the governor of the Reserve Bank of Australia.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-econ ... zq126.html

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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 30 Jan 2018, 08:11

packrat wrote:
30 Jan 2018, 07:36
Wage growth blamed on employers by the well-known radial labourite, the governor of the Reserve Bank of Australia.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-econ ... zq126.html
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 30 Jan 2018, 10:50

January is almost over and we are back into the political games already.

This is one funny. The Government has blamed........you guessed it, Labor for a cabinet leak about Abbott wanting to cut the dole off to anyone under 30.
Bill Shorten’s office scoffed at the idea that anyone in the opposition was behind the leak. One senior flack made the entirely reasonable observation that no one in Labor was a member of the government’s cabinet.
Then we get a retaliatory leak about Morrison playing games with people's visas.

Tit for tat from within the government.

Then later in the story we have the PM and the Foreign Minister openly contradicting the Deputy PM and the Defence Minister on minor matters such as the biggest strategic threats to Australia and offence to our largest trading partner.

The government has hit the ground for 2018 crawling.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/nationa ... 180130_TND
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by jezzamac » 30 Jan 2018, 11:02

Greg Hunt's defence of Morrison on AM this morning was overblown, shameful and basically BS.
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by veebass » 30 Jan 2018, 12:21

jezzamac wrote:
30 Jan 2018, 11:02
Greg Hunt's defence of Morrison on AM this morning was overblown, shameful and basically BS.
Help! We need a story in the Australian to bang the refugee drum and divert attention from what Morrison did.

Magically @ 12.19 this appears.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation ... 808c5db4ed

Oh you probably will have to pay, Rupert makes you pay for your propaganda. Anyway, you can imagine what it says.
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Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Post by jezzamac » 30 Jan 2018, 13:43

As I have said elsewhere, the issue is whether these guys adhere to the Rule of Law. What we have is a Minister who is willing to game the system. The end does not justify the means.
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