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Re: Maton JB4 Lives Again! (The Proof Is Here)

Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 13:32
by cleary
david1234 wrote: ↑
18 Jan 2018, 15:19
When I owned one, long ago, it sang. It "just worked". Playing it felt like coming home.

...
Funny, that's exactly how I described the feeling the first time I played one.

In the shop.

Then bought it even though it didn't meet any of the criteria I thought I was looking for 😢

Re: Maton JB4 Lives Again! (The Proof Is Here)

Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 14:23
by ozrider
cleary wrote: ↑
19 Jan 2018, 13:32
david1234 wrote: ↑
18 Jan 2018, 15:19
When I owned one, long ago, it sang. It "just worked". Playing it felt like coming home.

...
Funny, that's exactly how I described the feeling the first time I played one.

In the shop.

Then bought it even though it didn't meet any of the criteria I thought I was looking for 😢
It must be a magic tone mojo that only comes good for true believers :p

Re: Maton JB4 Lives Again! (The Proof Is Here)

Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 15:45
by Aussie Mark
There was a period of time in my life where just about every Australian band I saw live featured a bass player playing either a JB4 or a Stingray

Re: Maton JB4 Lives Again! (The Proof Is Here)

Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 16:56
by bsod
Aussie Mark wrote: ↑
18 Jan 2018, 09:32
david1234 wrote: ↑
18 Jan 2018, 09:12
(Zombie alert!)

So - who knows why the JB4 is currently out of production again?
"PLEASE NOTE: This guitar is currently unavailable, stay tuned for exciting developments across the range of Maton electrics."

https://maton.com.au/product/jb4

Maybe outsourcing to China?
Hi,

when I was in a music store which is also a Maton re-seller, one of the sales people just finished a call with Maton. He told the other staff that Maton just advised him that due to the large back orders for their acoustics, they are going to stop production of all electric guitars until their back orders have been fulfilled. Presumably at that point production on their other products will resume. This was back in late Nov 2017.

It may also have something to do with the CITES rosewood issue, perhaps a maple neck JB4 is on the way! That's pure speculation on my part by the way, however perhaps they are experimenting with other woods for neck/fret-boards

Craig.

Re: Maton JB4 Lives Again! (The Proof Is Here)

Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 17:01
by RedVee
bsod wrote: ↑
19 Jan 2018, 16:56
Aussie Mark wrote: ↑
18 Jan 2018, 09:32
david1234 wrote: ↑
18 Jan 2018, 09:12
(Zombie alert!)

So - who knows why the JB4 is currently out of production again?
"PLEASE NOTE: This guitar is currently unavailable, stay tuned for exciting developments across the range of Maton electrics."

https://maton.com.au/product/jb4

Maybe outsourcing to China?
Hi,

when I was in a music store which is also a Maton re-seller, one of the sales people just finished a call with Maton. He told the other staff that Maton just advised him that due to the large back orders for their acoustics, they are going to stop production of all electric guitars until their back orders have been fulfilled. Presumably at that point production on their other products will resume. This was back in late Nov 2017.

It may also have something to do with the CITES rosewood issue, perhaps a maple neck JB4 is on the way! That's pure speculation on my part by the way, however perhaps they are experimenting with other woods for neck/fret-boards

Craig.
They have Bunya as a fretboard wood on one of their acoustic guitars.
Edit: correction- it’s a Bunya face (Top?) with a Desert Acacia fingerboard
https://maton.com.au/product/ea80c

Re: Maton JB4 Lives Again! (The Proof Is Here)

Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 18:50
by bassbass
the CITES rosewood issue,
Back in the 80's AFAIK, Maton used "african rosewood" as fretboards, but stained darker to resemble ebony or (Indian) rosewood. African Rosewood is now well known as Bubinga, thanks especially to the Warwick Thumb. And it is a good timber for fretboards. (FWIW, it is not botanically related to indian Rosewood, a Dalbergia.) Thankfully Maton certainly don't stain fretboards just to meet a cosmetic market expectation these days, and when I worked there 8-9 years ago, we had a huge stack of bubinga fretboard blanks left over from those days that we simply used as sacrificial boards to set up the cnc machines for fingerboard runs. As a bassplayer, I used to think, boy I'd love a guitar with a bubinga fretboard!

I'm a huge fan of the more stringent timber laws, and it wouldn't surprise me if an Aussie hardwood became the top choice for fretboards. I just hope we can manage our natural resources better than the developing world have.

I'd love to see musicians getting hip to just where the materials for their instrument comes from, plus a little of the social and environmental impacts of sourcing that material. I'd hope to see love and support for the Luthiers and manufactures who use recycled timbers and timbers from responsibly managed plantations. :thumbup:

Re: Maton JB4 Lives Again! (The Proof Is Here)

Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 21:03
by cleary
ozrider wrote: ↑
19 Jan 2018, 14:23

It must be a magic tone mojo that only comes good for true believers :p
Dunno, I didn't know anything about them before I tried it. I was looking for a 5 string that day, didn't find one that I liked and was almost out the door when I noticed the jb4 in the window and gave it a "quick" try

Re: Maton JB4 Lives Again! (The Proof Is Here)

Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 21:08
by RedVee
Aussie Mark wrote: ↑
19 Jan 2018, 15:45
There was a period of time in my life where just about every Australian band I saw live featured a bass player playing either a JB4 or a Stingray
So what happened to them? They just went out of fashion?

Re: Maton JB4 Lives Again! (The Proof Is Here)

Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 07:40
by slowlearner
I think I remember that period as well. I think what happened was pointy headstocks and 5 strings.

Re: Maton JB4 Lives Again! (The Proof Is Here)

Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 08:38
by drbass
slowlearner wrote: ↑
22 Jan 2018, 07:40
I think I remember that period as well. I think what happened was pointy headstocks and 5 strings.
Looks like you've summed up everything that's wrong with with current basses, Pete: pointy headstocks, and more than 4 strings ;) .

Regards,
Michael

Re: Maton JB4 Lives Again! (The Proof Is Here)

Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 10:43
by slowlearner
bahahahaha! :lol: Oh man, you made me laugh.

And we're not helping are we. :rolf: Course I hold Gene Simmons responsible too.

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