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EBMM Basses

Post by PDOG » 29 Jan 2018, 13:48

Hey, just a quick question.. Do all EBMM Stingrays have the "Made in San Luis Obispo California USA" label on the rear of the headstock ? Or were there some 2003-2004 models made without ?
My question stems from a couple of adds I have seen running on Ebay that don't have the label on them.. My radar is going off
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ernie-Ball- ... SwJ71aaU5W
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ernie-Ball- ... SwTQtaRdlm

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Re: EBMM Basses

Post by packrat » 29 Jan 2018, 14:01

Quickly checking reverb (including finished listings) shows 02, 03, 04, 05 stingrays all having that decal. Hmm.

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Post by benhill1982 » 29 Jan 2018, 14:05

Yes, they do as far as I know. And those ones have the Stingray classic bridge mute adjustments and metal battery cover on the standard body shape. And the hardware looks a little off. Made in china alarms bells.
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Re: EBMM Basses

Post by PDOG » 29 Jan 2018, 14:05

packrat wrote:
29 Jan 2018, 14:01
Quickly checking reverb (including finished listings) shows 02, 03, 04, 05 stingrays all having that decal. Hmm.
Yeah, I've sent a question to the seller asking about authenticity... waiting for a response.

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Re: EBMM Basses

Post by PDOG » 29 Jan 2018, 14:12

benhill1982 wrote:
29 Jan 2018, 14:05
Yes, they do as far as I know. And those ones have the Stingray classic bridge mute adjustments and metal battery cover on the standard body shape. And the hardware looks a little off. Made in china alarms bells.
Great, thanks for the feedback... I'll be giving them a wide berth. :thumbup:

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Post by vin-tone » 29 Jan 2018, 14:38

There is a Japanese series too - the EX (..?)

I think it's identical but has no 'Made in Cali..' text on the HS.
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Post by PDOG » 29 Jan 2018, 15:09

vin-tone wrote:
29 Jan 2018, 14:38
There is a Japanese series too - the EX (..?)

I think it's identical but has no 'Made in Cali..' text on the HS.
Mystery solved... they are indeed Japanese.. Thanx for the quick responses people
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Post by aphekgreg » 29 Jan 2018, 15:49

I was about to say there are made in Japan versions, but have been beaten to it. Seems to be quite a variety of them made, with configurations that weren't available from the US ones. My understanding is that all hardware and electronics are made in the US and exactly the same as they use. I would assume the necks and bodies are MIJ, but have heard they were imported and it's only the assembly that's done in Japan. I assume like all high end Japanese built instruments, they're at least as good as the US versions.
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Post by veebass » 29 Jan 2018, 16:17

Raises an interesting question about their value.
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Post by ozrider » 29 Jan 2018, 17:34

aphekgreg wrote:
29 Jan 2018, 15:49
I was about to say there are made in Japan versions, but have been beaten to it. Seems to be quite a variety of them made, with configurations that weren't available from the US ones. My understanding is that all hardware and electronics are made in the US and exactly the same as they use. I would assume the necks and bodies are MIJ, but have heard they were imported and it's only the assembly that's done in Japan. I assume like all high end Japanese built instruments, they're at least as good as the US versions.
I was going to say they look really great from what I can tell from the pics compared to Stingrays I've owned, not to mention the really cheesy looking chinese made knock-offs.

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Post by aphekgreg » 29 Jan 2018, 18:37

ozrider wrote:
29 Jan 2018, 17:34
aphekgreg wrote:
29 Jan 2018, 15:49
I was about to say there are made in Japan versions, but have been beaten to it. Seems to be quite a variety of them made, with configurations that weren't available from the US ones. My understanding is that all hardware and electronics are made in the US and exactly the same as they use. I would assume the necks and bodies are MIJ, but have heard they were imported and it's only the assembly that's done in Japan. I assume like all high end Japanese built instruments, they're at least as good as the US versions.
I was going to say they look really great from what I can tell from the pics compared to Stingrays I've owned, not to mention the really cheesy looking chinese made knock-offs.
Ernie Ball have been very careful in not allowing too many replacements parts, which means it's much harder to counterfeit them. The knock offs I've seen (and the cheaper licensed version), use generic looking parts, which makes it easier to spot a fake.
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Post by aphekgreg » 29 Jan 2018, 18:45

veebass wrote:
29 Jan 2018, 16:17
Raises an interesting question about their value.
Used Stingray prices seem to vary enormously. When I was looking at Stingrays last year, I saw sellers asking between AU$900 and AU$1800 for the Japanese ones. All from Japan sellers. Most were asking around AU$1200-1400. The few I saw locally, weren't forthcoming about them being Japanese and asking US prices.

Interestingly, they made some vintage spec versions, with 2 band eq, 3 bolt neck and string through bridges with mutes. Not having the Made in California decal on the back of the headstock, makes them hard to differentiate from the pre-Ernie Ball versions.
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Post by aphekgreg » 29 Jan 2018, 19:47

Here's an EX with string through bridge. I haven't seen US ones with the smaller bridge and string through (but am happy to be corrected).

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https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MUSIC-MAN-S ... SwRTVaayUs

You can often get a US version for less than the Japanese ones. Whether or not they're a better buy, I don't know. This one is 4kg though, which is good for me.

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https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MUSIC-MAN-S ... SwXEdaayUn
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Re: EBMM Basses

Post by NotTheFish » 29 Jan 2018, 20:21

For all the good work the Japanese do, sunburst finishes can be a be difficult for some of them. The above example is just simply horrible IMO.

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Post by aphekgreg » 29 Jan 2018, 20:37

NotTheFish wrote:
29 Jan 2018, 20:21
For all the good work the Japanese do, sunburst finishes can be a be difficult for some of them. The above example is just simply horrible IMO.
Are you referring to the second one? That's the US one!
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