Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

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Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

Post by cleary » 28 Dec 2017, 10:56

Hi folks,
I've dipped my toe into the 5 string world in the last 12 months or so, and decided I like it enough to try and make it stick.
I've also been GASSing for a Precision style bass for a long time, so I figure I'm going to try and combine these if the right thing comes along.

Trouble is, there don't seem to be too many options in this sort of flavour, so I'm hoping the obf brains trust can help me out :drinkingbuddies:

Budget is <$1k
New or used is fine
Upgrades, done or recommended is fine too (bar routing neck pockets, I'm ok to do about any work)
I'm not brand-averse (eg squier on the headstock is fine)

What do you recommend I should be looking for that's going to maximise my bang for buck?
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Re: Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

Post by jamiesdad » 28 Dec 2017, 13:35

The squier P bass 5 is a great option ...
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Re: Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

Post by ozrider » 28 Dec 2017, 13:57

Yamaha PJs (bb series) In my opinion it really helps to have the J for a fiver to tighten up that low B

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Re: Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

Post by johnnyrico » 28 Dec 2017, 14:29

How about the Sire P7 5 String? They look the part - I might pick up one myself in the next few weeks.

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Re: Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

Post by blizzard » 28 Dec 2017, 14:36

The Yamaha is a good choice, there is also a Yamaha 1025x on eBay for $900, which is a fantastic bass. Ibanez make a TMB605 which had Nordstrand designed PJ pickups but I don't know if they are available in Australia.

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Re: Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

Post by cleary » 28 Dec 2017, 15:32

jamiesdad wrote:
28 Dec 2017, 13:35
The squier P bass 5 is a great option ...
Awesome, didn't realise there was a squier P 5
ozrider wrote:
28 Dec 2017, 13:57
Yamaha PJs (bb series) In my opinion it really helps to have the J for a fiver to tighten up that low B
Yeah, the Yamaha BBs have had my attention for a long time - I've found the model numbering a bit confusing in the past, but if I can nail down a couple of suitable numbers I can keep an eye out
johnnyrico wrote:
28 Dec 2017, 14:29
How about the Sire P7 5 String? They look the part - I might pick up one myself in the next few weeks.

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I will be looking into these more! I didn't realise they were doing PJs -

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28 Dec 2017, 14:36
The Yamaha is a good choice, there is also a Yamaha 1025x on eBay for $900, which is a fantastic bass. Ibanez make a TMB605 which had Nordstrand designed PJ pickups but I don't know if they are available in Australia.
I'm a bit of an ibanez fan so I'll look into that model and see what luck I have

I knew the brains trust wouldn't let me down - thanks a lot guys :)
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Re: Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

Post by jamiesdad » 28 Dec 2017, 15:56

On the yammies

4xx series is the basic
10xx is mid tier
20xx is master built Japanese

1025 for 900 is great value ... they can be heavy though
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Re: Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

Post by BassLine » 28 Dec 2017, 19:13

G&L, Yamaha & Ibanez would top my list.

A lot of great basses above from 80-90's often sell in the sub-$1000 range.
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Re: Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

Post by Rocksolid » 28 Dec 2017, 19:18

Pretty impressed with my Squier P5. Certainly intrigued about the Sires though.

Deciding if you want passive or active might help you narrow your search!
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Re: Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

Post by ozrider » 28 Dec 2017, 21:18

Rocksolid wrote:
28 Dec 2017, 19:18
Certainly intrigued about the Sires though.
yeah me too
Rocksolid wrote:
28 Dec 2017, 19:18
Deciding if you want passive or active might help you narrow your search!
also fretboard radius and string spacing

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Re: Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

Post by irvinz » 28 Dec 2017, 22:51

BassLine wrote:
28 Dec 2017, 19:13
G&L, Yamaha & Ibanez would top my list.

A lot of great basses above from 80-90's often sell in the sub-$1000 range.
dont think there were any 5 string pj versions from g&l

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Re: Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

Post by ozrider » 28 Dec 2017, 23:19

Oh yeah, and every now and then you can grab an older MIJ Yamaha TRB5P (PJ with piezo) for $1k

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Re: Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

Post by cleary » 29 Dec 2017, 10:20

jamiesdad wrote:
28 Dec 2017, 15:56
On the yammies

4xx series is the basic
10xx is mid tier
20xx is master built Japanese

1025 for 900 is great value ... they can be heavy though
Thanks for the summary - the weight is not a big issue for me at this stage, still got a good back and power lifting a lump of a toddler every day has got me stronger than I've been in a while :p
BassLine wrote:
28 Dec 2017, 19:13
G&L, Yamaha & Ibanez would top my list.

A lot of great basses above from 80-90's often sell in the sub-$1000 range.
As per below, I found the SB-2 but no info on whether there's a 5 string version?

I actually have a half-dream (not one that I will scour the planet for and pay the earth, just a back of the mind thing if the opportunity pops up) for a birth year (1980) 5 or 6 string. They were not in regular production at this point so it's only the more boutique-y stuff where you can find it...

90's for sure, I really like the look of the Yamaha TRB5p as mentioned below too -
Rocksolid wrote:
28 Dec 2017, 19:18
Pretty impressed with my Squier P5. Certainly intrigued about the Sires though.

Deciding if you want passive or active might help you narrow your search!
Thanks for the info on the squier, I did a bit of reading on talkbass about the Sires and the for the P7 specifically (not so much the V7) people are noticing neck dive, the cause of which may be that *the neck* itself is heavy.
Passive/Active does not bother me at all tbh - I'm chaining so many preamps I just don't care. My current herd has 2x passive, 1 switchable active/passive, and 1 always on active.
ozrider wrote:
28 Dec 2017, 21:18
Rocksolid wrote:
28 Dec 2017, 19:18
Deciding if you want passive or active might help you narrow your search!
also fretboard radius and string spacing
I've found that my playing style isn't particularly affected by this either :p
ozrider wrote:
28 Dec 2017, 23:19
Oh yeah, and every now and then you can grab an older MIJ Yamaha TRB5P (PJ with piezo) for $1k
Yep, have noticed these, do want :red face
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Re: Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

Post by Heath » 03 Jan 2018, 09:20

Definitely consider the yamaha Bb's, but if you aren't totally set on a pj style check out the g&l tribute L or M 2500's...very nice basses and I'm pretty sure you can pick up a new one for under $1000
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Re: Mid-price 5 string P/PJ options

Post by cleary » 03 Jan 2018, 09:49

Heath wrote:
03 Jan 2018, 09:20
Definitely consider the yamaha Bb's, but if you aren't totally set on a pj style check out the g&l tribute L or M 2500's...very nice basses and I'm pretty sure you can pick up a new one for under $1000
Thanks Heath - those G&Ls look good. I suppose I could expand my options significantly with dual MM/soapbar pickups and just replace the neck pickup with a P config in a MM/soapbar shell.

I had an offline discussion with George over the break that got some cogs turning - the discussion touched on the problem of the boominess of the B string when combined with the P pickup. It got me thinking back to what/who got me interested in this config, and I remembered it was Kyle Eastwood:


I did a bit of digging into his gear - which actually turned out to be pretty difficult. It relied on a fair bit of word of mouth from guys at Talkbass.com but the upshot basically was this:
1. He plays two identical electric basses, one fretted and the other fretless
2. They are a Bunny Brunel signature shape, custom made by Gibson
3. In some interview he discussed that the biggest issue he encountered with these basses was getting the preamp design right (presumably to deal with the B).

I love the sound he gets, it's a super warm, smooth and almost delicate tone across the entire range -

So I guess the question for everyone here is, what did YOU do to tame the P pickup + Low B boom combination?
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