WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

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WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

Post by SneakyJak » 10 Feb 2018, 18:55

I know this is a long shot but I'm looking for a cab that will handle 30hz or lower. From what I can find I think it's probably an 18" driver.

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Re: WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

Post by kodou » 10 Feb 2018, 19:00

Check out Barefaced Cabs. They reportedly can handle down to 27Hz.

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Re: WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

Post by packrat » 10 Feb 2018, 19:12

More interestingly, why did you feel this is needed?

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Re: WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

Post by jamiesdad » 10 Feb 2018, 20:01

I have a Schroeder 18L (8ohm, 1200w) - can do 35hz.
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Re: WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

Post by BassLine » 10 Feb 2018, 20:42

Acme cabs go low.
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Re: WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

Post by Petebass » 10 Feb 2018, 20:42

Are Acme still around? They were good for 30Hz.

Hope you have a high wattage amp?
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Re: WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

Post by SneakyJak » 10 Feb 2018, 20:55

Couple reasons I’m looking I have a meat box which pushes 30hz and I’ve never really been game to use it at any volume and I’d like to start looking at extended range basses. Not interest really in lots of strings just much lower tuning.

It’s an experiment

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Re: WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

Post by packrat » 10 Feb 2018, 22:07

SneakyJak wrote:
10 Feb 2018, 20:55
Couple reasons I’m looking I have a meat box which pushes 30hz and I’ve never really been game to use it at any volume and I’d like to start looking at extended range basses. Not interest really in lots of strings just much lower tuning.

It’s an experiment
Fair enough, but you're also pushing outside human hearing range. That's not how we perceive the low stuff, rather by magic reconstruction of harmonics.

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Re: WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

Post by SneakyJak » 10 Feb 2018, 22:18

packrat wrote:
10 Feb 2018, 22:07
SneakyJak wrote:
10 Feb 2018, 20:55
Couple reasons I’m looking I have a meat box which pushes 30hz and I’ve never really been game to use it at any volume and I’d like to start looking at extended range basses. Not interest really in lots of strings just much lower tuning.

It’s an experiment
Fair enough, but you're also pushing outside human hearing range. That's not how we perceive the low stuff, rather by magic reconstruction of harmonics.

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Appreciate that I guess at its most basic level I want to be able to experiment at volume without damaging my main rig an Aguilar 212
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Re: WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

Post by BassLine » 10 Feb 2018, 22:35

Petebass wrote:
10 Feb 2018, 20:42
Are Acme still around? They were good for 30Hz.

Hope you have a high wattage amp?
If only you asked one week ago....
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Re: WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

Post by SneakyJak » 10 Feb 2018, 22:55

Petebass wrote:
10 Feb 2018, 20:42
Are Acme still around? They were good for 30Hz.

Hope you have a high wattage amp?
I have a dark glass 900 and a Mesa prodigy, is there a minimum power you need to drive these things. I know very little about Amps and cabs beyond I know the sound I like.

Thats a shame, only thought of it today because I was layering OD, synth pedal and my meatbox

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Re: WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

Post by packrat » 11 Feb 2018, 00:00

SneakyJak wrote:
10 Feb 2018, 22:18
packrat wrote:
10 Feb 2018, 22:07

Fair enough, but you're also pushing outside human hearing range. That's not how we perceive the low stuff, rather by magic reconstruction of harmonics.

B>
Appreciate that I guess at its most basic level I want to be able to experiment at volume without damaging my main rig an Aguilar 212
I think outside the frequency ranges, the cab is just going to do a terrible job of putting much of the power out. (think of the shape of an inverted slopey bathtub where the frequency ranges are the points where the output power / input power ratio at a particular frequency drop below some fraction of the maximum).

In particular, if you were going to blow up an Aguilar 212 with 30Hz, the low B on a typical 5-string would do it.

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Re: WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

Post by benhill1982 » 11 Feb 2018, 06:14

Bass cabs will be designed to cover typical bass frequencies, it sounds like you’re after something more in the PA Sub space.
When I do what you’re talking about, I use headphones (they cover down to 10Hz)as I don’t want to damage my cabs.
The Darkglass M900 has a Preamp out on the back, which is at instrument level - that can be run direct into a Powered Sub, or into your DAW and then into a speaker if you’re at home. Means you don’t have to worry about a speaker load also - it’ll run without a bass cab connected no worries, and save risking your bass cab from damage.
I’d also recommend you choose your location carefully when bumping these frequencies - houses (shelves, plaster joins) tend to not love that treatment.
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Re: WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

Post by SneakyJak » 11 Feb 2018, 08:33

The meat box pedal pushes 30 and 60hz frequencies which gives your sound a girth i haven’t been able to achieve any other way. I can make my 50’s style p bass sound massive. This has a place on stage i think (with restraint)

The extended range stuff is for my own enjoyment and as you say could be served using software and headphones

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Re: WTB - cab freq range down to 30hz

Post by narcdor » 11 Feb 2018, 08:43

I’d be adding a small powered sub with a crossover to protect your main rig, then you have control of the crossover point and a separate volume for the sub.
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