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Re: The Year Off, Dreadnought Acoustic - #26

Posted: 23 Mar 2013, 12:59
by Phil
KirBass wrote:Looking awesome Phil, what a magic sunburst! Going pretty trad with bracing etc - lots of R&D in bracing these days. Making me feel very guilty about my acoustic build still being on hold since the birth of my now 20 month old second daughter....it's the 80/20 rule...but beautiful work Phil.
Yeah there's probably way too much R&D that goes into it, every builder tries to outdo everyone else, whether that works who knows. The bracing pattern is a typical J-45 pattern and its real typical of the majority of acoustics out there if you look at bracing placement on most guitars. I spent a lot of time going through the Kent Everett voicing DVD and the Robbie O'Brien voicing videos on his online acoustic course and that was the best thing I could have done, there's a huge difference in sound between an over braced top and one done just right. There's no way I could have done it without those videos, I would have had nothing to compare it too, hearing the differences and seeing it in a video is a 100 times better than just reading it in a book or online

Check out the O'Brien videos when you get around to voicing yours. Just buy "The Top" chapter, it'll do wonders to the final result, at $30 for it its well worth it.
http://www.obrienguitars.com/courses/ac/


Thanks Andy :D

The Year Off, Dreadnought Acoustic - #26

Posted: 23 Mar 2013, 14:43
by PilbaraBass
Looking good! How did you remove the lacquer under the bridge? Scrape?
Or solvent?

Re: The Year Off, Dreadnought Acoustic - #26

Posted: 23 Mar 2013, 17:34
by Classic5
Wow, excellent work Phil :cool:

Re: The Year Off, Dreadnought Acoustic - #26

Posted: 23 Mar 2013, 20:20
by Phil
Thanks :)

Scrape and sandpaper, solvent probably have helped it a bit better, I might try that to clean up the edges

The Year Off, Dreadnought Acoustic - #26

Posted: 24 Mar 2013, 06:43
by PilbaraBass
Phil wrote:Thanks :)

Scrape and sandpaper, solvent probably have helped it a bit better, I might try that to clean up the edges
Careful not to ruin finish there... I would think that if you have enough bare wood, that should hold the bridge just fine...
I'll need to take a look at my acoustic (poly on mahogany) and see if I can determine what they did there.

Re: The Year Off, Dreadnought Acoustic - #26

Posted: 31 Mar 2013, 08:02
by Bill Paulin
I played ( as much as a righty can play a lefty ) the finished gat yesterday. It's deep, rich and wide!!
I'd like 2 thanks. :hyper:

The Year Off, Dreadnought Acoustic - #26

Posted: 31 Mar 2013, 08:17
by PilbaraBass
I need to hear sound samples...

I love sweet-sounding acoustics... I'll take one, as well...

Re: The Year Off, Dreadnought Acoustic - #26

Posted: 31 Mar 2013, 16:31
by LimeB
oops

Re: The Year Off, Dreadnought Acoustic - #26

Posted: 31 Mar 2013, 16:32
by LimeB
Phil wrote:
KirBass wrote:Looking awesome Phil, what a magic sunburst! Going pretty trad with bracing etc - lots of R&D in bracing these days. Making me feel very guilty about my acoustic build still being on hold since the birth of my now 20 month old second daughter....it's the 80/20 rule...but beautiful work Phil.
Yeah there's probably way too much R&D that goes into it, every builder tries to outdo everyone else, whether that works who knows. The bracing pattern is a typical J-45 pattern and its real typical of the majority of acoustics out there if you look at bracing placement on most guitars. I spent a lot of time going through the Kent Everett voicing DVD and the Robbie O'Brien voicing videos on his online acoustic course and that was the best thing I could have done, there's a huge difference in sound between an over braced top and one done just right. There's no way I could have done it without those videos, I would have had nothing to compare it too, hearing the differences and seeing it in a video is a 100 times better than just reading it in a book or online

Check out the O'Brien videos when you get around to voicing yours. Just buy "The Top" chapter, it'll do wonders to the final result, at $30 for it its well worth it.
http://www.obrienguitars.com/courses/ac/


Thanks Andy :D
I spent a lot of time going through Kenny Everett voicing such as Carla and Capt Kremmen. Still can't brace a bass though.

Phil, is there much diff between what you are doing and a baritone acoustic?

Re: The Year Off, Dreadnought Acoustic - #26

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 13:09
by Phil
As far I can understand baritones have a scale around 27", this one has a more regular scale of 25". I had to google the Kenny/Karla thing to understand what you meant :)

Gluing the bridge
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Once I've made the nut and saddle, the action is set and fretwork is done.
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Final pics
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Re: The Year Off, Dreadnought Acoustic - #26

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 14:34
by basshack
She's a beauty Phil. Thanks for posting up the build process yet again. I do like going over the whole thing from start to finish when the final product is delivered. Now sound bites please.

Re: The Year Off, Dreadnought Acoustic - #26

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 14:57
by Phil
Its a leftie so you won't be getting soundbytes from me :D I might try to get a live video from the owner in Montreal and post it in a week or two, I'm flying out tomorrow.

Re: The Year Off, Dreadnought Acoustic - #26

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 15:02
by LimeB
So how long until you are back in business Phil? Enjoy the trip.

The Year Off, Dreadnought Acoustic - #26

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 15:27
by PilbaraBass
Enjoy Montreal, Phil... Good chance to get your French back into shape...

I love Quebec. Je me souviens :)

Bring a coat... IT'S COLD!!!

Re: The Year Off, Dreadnought Acoustic - #26

Posted: 07 Apr 2013, 20:04
by daves
Eat all of the poutine!