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Would you buy a reasonably priced tube amp?

Poll ended at 01 May 2018, 08:02

Yes
27
75%
No
9
25%
 
Total votes: 36

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Re: Tube Amps

Post by slowlearner » 22 Apr 2018, 16:46

I love the idea, but I'm seeing a sizable problem. You're using "point to point", "handmade" and "affordable" in the same sentence. I can't see how you can do that in Australia with such a small target market. I don't see how you'll make any money.
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Re: Tube Amps

Post by basshack » 22 Apr 2018, 17:04

slowlearner wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 16:46
I love the idea, but I'm seeing a sizable problem. You're using "point to point", "handmade" and "affordable" in the same sentence. I can't see how you can do that in Australia with such a small target market. I don't see how you'll make any money.
See I go to MSGM and will go regardless for personal reasons so I can build endless permeations of stringed instruments or do something that might offset some of the costs. I will have a proper job soon enough so I don't need to make a wage. I need something that challenges and rewards. Electronics is what I do, tubes interest me and I can integrate that into what I have learnt about woodwork at MSGM.

Make more sense now?
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Re: Tube Amps

Post by DoctorJohn » 22 Apr 2018, 17:12

Nothing wrong with not liking tube amps. Like anything, it’s totally subjective.

I played through solid state amps for a while and did enjoy the tone but they all seemed to run out of puff - they were nice at moderate volume but at stage volume (in a metal band) the more you turned them up the crappier they sounded. First time I played through an SVT it sounded great - but you did need to give it some beans to sound really good. The opposite occurred to a solid state where the more volume you needed the nicer it sounded. I’ve got the Mesa 400 now and love it to bits - similar weight to the traynor just a bit heavier.

I have a svt3pro which is a hybrid and use that a bit at home and rehearsal. I do like the sound of that through a low tuned cab. Sounds not so good through the 8x10 on its own but cuts through the mix nicely.

I agree with Greg above. I guess what the definition of reasonable is. In boutique amp terms or production line? The traynor yba300 was well priced and set a new tube amp benchmark. But I’m not sure the intent is to compete with that sort of amp?

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Re: Tube Amps

Post by basshack » 22 Apr 2018, 17:13

NotTheFish wrote:
21 Apr 2018, 15:57
I would rather see you clone your Monique for a good price Blaine :hyper: I have recently bought a Ampeg PF50T so I have the small tube amp covered.
Not going to replicate Monique. It's not out of production, Jule makes his living from it and it's schematics are not available in published literature. So sorry but not going to happen.
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Re: Tube Amps

Post by basshack » 22 Apr 2018, 17:18

aphekgreg wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 08:31
What's the definition of reasonable? :cool: I was going to build a all valve bass head, before I bought my Traynor YBA300. I realised the parts were going to cost more than the already built amp.
You're right Greg. Parts plus margin will still see me costing more than a production amp. So the market will be smaller but if I can offer something different in looks and quality then it might fly enough to fit my purpose.
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Re: Tube Amps

Post by slowlearner » 22 Apr 2018, 17:36

basshack wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 17:04
See I go to MSGM and will go regardless for personal reasons so I can build endless permeations of stringed instruments or do something that might offset some of the costs. I will have a proper job soon enough so I don't need to make a wage. I need something that challenges and rewards. Electronics is what I do, tubes interest me and I can integrate that into what I have learnt about woodwork at MSGM.

Make more sense now?
Yes, that makes sense. Still like a lot of hard graft though.
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Re: Tube Amps

Post by lostdoggy » 22 Apr 2018, 17:41

I said yes, but realistically, no, and I can't change my vote.

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Re: Tube Amps

Post by basshack » 22 Apr 2018, 17:41

petersemple wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 13:28
Wrenn wrote:
21 Apr 2018, 20:17
I’d love to have something like a Monique in a pedal form :)
Dunno exactly how it matches a Monique, but this is a tube pedal that looks like a good design - the tube are running at high voltage so it should sound and act just like a proper preamp.

http://frogpedals.com/index.php/categor ... be-preamp/
That's interesting. He sells the PCB ready for a DIY build or a completed pedal for US$349 plus... It's no Monique though, its missing the tube rectifier for starters, but then putting all of Monique into a pedal format woud be a challenge.
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Re: Tube Amps

Post by basshack » 22 Apr 2018, 17:42

lostdoggy wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 17:41
I said yes, but realistically, no, and I can't change my vote.
That's fine, I'm not taking orders!
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Re: Tube Amps

Post by Classic5 » 22 Apr 2018, 18:25

Like a few others here, I would be interested in some sort of tube preamp. Just can't swing 2.5k for a Monique, so for the time being I have to record through a dodgy U5 :(
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Re: Tube Amps

Post by basshack » 22 Apr 2018, 19:03

Classic5 wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 18:25
Like a few others here, I would be interested in some sort of tube preamp. Just can't swing 2.5k for a Monique, so for the time being I have to record through a dodgy U5 :(
Or borrow mine! All you have to do is ask.
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Re: Tube Amps

Post by NotTheFish » 22 Apr 2018, 19:17

Can I borrow your Monique please Blaine.

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Re: Tube Amps

Post by basshack » 22 Apr 2018, 19:19

Yes Jeremy I would loan it to you. How long do you want to have it though?
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Re: Tube Amps

Post by NotTheFish » 22 Apr 2018, 19:23

Just long enough for you to forget you loaned it to me :poke:

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Re: Tube Amps

Post by Classic5 » 22 Apr 2018, 19:28

basshack wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 19:03
Classic5 wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 18:25
Like a few others here, I would be interested in some sort of tube preamp. Just can't swing 2.5k for a Monique, so for the time being I have to record through a dodgy U5 :(
Or borrow mine! All you have to do is ask.
Thanks Blaine, I know you are super generous with your gear. Sometimes though you just have to have your own, so it's there when inspiration strikes.

BTW did you see the the recent interview with Jule Potter on youtube? Look up youtuber Bass Buddha.
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