Rosewood bans..

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Re: Rosewood bans..

Post by blizzard » 08 Feb 2017, 07:14

aphekgreg wrote:The thing I really don't get with this, is what's the point confiscating timber that's already made into an instrument? I guess they're trying to cut usage and demand for all of it, but I thought there had been measures in place for years to stop the import/export of prohibited timbers and that manufacturers already needed certified woods? If anything, destroying existing pieces, will just make the others even more valuable.
I would have thought that its due to it being hard to tell what instruments were made before and after the ban thus, ban it on all instruments... which sucks for us.

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Re: Rosewood bans..

Post by PilbaraBass » 08 Feb 2017, 12:31

^correct...

The reason we pay the price is because other countries can't get their acts together and ban the harvesting of the timber in the first place...

By the way... The tree is killed in the field, not in the luthier factory...

I hope that someday that things can progress to the point where these timbers are no longer harvested, and then we can just get on enjoying what we already have...

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Re: Rosewood bans..

Post by onehandclapping » 08 Feb 2017, 12:59

Evan wrote:I was on the phone to Australian customs yesterday about this.
He said it is fine to take instruments with rosewood in and out of Australia. You just need to declare it.
He also said the worst case scenario is that it gets confiscated to be fumigated for bora insects but you'll get it back...eventually
Maybe "ordinary" rosewood,buuuuuuut you still have to get the instrument into another country/countries before you come home.
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Re: Rosewood bans..

Post by Evan » 08 Feb 2017, 21:45

I'm taking my 63 P and a fodera to Hong Kong next week. Both with 'unordinary' rosewood. I'll let you know how I go :popcorn:
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Re: Rosewood bans..

Post by onehandclapping » 09 Feb 2017, 10:05

Seems "ordinary" rosewood is exempt from CITES if it is 10 kgs or less and is not being used for personal gain
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Re: Rosewood bans..

Post by sic608 » 13 Feb 2017, 20:59

Reignite in T minus 3 2 1...

Sorry :lol:

Whats peoples prediction to current stock values, dollars as well as personal values, on rosewood/bubinga bass' well all guitars i suppose short and or long term?

Do we invision that in time these guitars will become more sort after and eventually rare in yrs to come? Or will it be a mer... in the way majorities might not even care or even notice?

And go... :popcorn:
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Re: Rosewood bans..

Post by MentalPatient » 13 Feb 2017, 22:17

For bass, rosewood will be as sought after as led sleds are now. Perhaps a different story for guitar players as they are less inclined to compromise tone as they have stayed with all valve heads.
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Re: Rosewood bans..

Post by onehandclapping » 14 Feb 2017, 06:29

MentalPatient wrote:For bass, rosewood will be as sought after as led sleds are now. Perhaps a different story for guitar players as they are less inclined to compromise tone as they have stayed with all valve heads.
Hold on I am still using valve heads ;)
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Re: Rosewood bans..

Post by sic608 » 14 Feb 2017, 09:20

MentalPatient wrote:For bass, rosewood will be as sought after as led sleds are now. Perhaps a different story for guitar players as they are less inclined to compromise tone as they have stayed with all valve heads.
However with Bubinga being more substantial in % of a build than rosewood ie body vs fretboard. This may have a more say in tone and may well have a different outcome

I must say but i would be of the belief bass players are more fussy on complete tone than a guitarist since we operate on a fundamental clean tone despite variant characteristics and subtle effects
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Re: Rosewood bans..

Post by rodl2005 » 14 Feb 2017, 10:55

onehandclapping wrote:
MentalPatient wrote:For bass, rosewood will be as sought after as led sleds are now. Perhaps a different story for guitar players as they are less inclined to compromise tone as they have stayed with all valve heads.
Hold on I am still using valve heads ;)
:ninja: Me too. I still use all valve amps 98% of the time.
And. ..I've never really liked "led sleds" .......
perhaps I'll grow roses :peep:
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Re: Rosewood bans..

Post by Evan » 20 Feb 2017, 11:24

Evan wrote:I'm taking my 63 P and a fodera to Hong Kong next week. Both with 'unordinary' rosewood. I'll let you know how I go :popcorn:
It was fine. Customs didn't even seem to care... :shrug:
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Re: Rosewood bans..

Post by RedVee » 08 May 2017, 19:14

My cousin is pretty much housebound with bowel cancer. His sisters partner bought him a Fender MIJ '62 Telecaster w'Bigsby used from a US seller, as something new for him to play around with in the time left that he is able.

The Tele has been in Customs since 13 Apr. It has a rosewood fretboard and purchaser was unaware of the new regs.

Do you guys think it's likely that this is being held up by the CITES thing, or is this just par for the course?
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Re: Rosewood bans..

Post by slowlearner » 10 May 2017, 13:13

Man that sucks... I'm guessing though, where customs is concerned the answer is, "how long is a piece of string". It may or may not have anything to do with CITES.
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Re: Rosewood bans..

Post by RedVee » 10 May 2017, 14:49

slowlearner wrote:Man that sucks... I'm guessing though, where customs is concerned the answer is, "how long is a piece of string". It may or may not have anything to do with CITES.
Thanks Pete. yeah, i guess "who knows" may be the correct answer.
It's just especially frustrating under the circumstances.
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Re: Rosewood bans..

Post by maxgroover » 10 May 2017, 14:51

Terrible situation indeed :(

Have they tried calling customs to see what the hold up is?
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