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How to start

Post by RedVee » 28 Jan 2016, 15:19

Just start, I know. And practice, practice, practice.

Background... I've joined a group at St Vinnies of 6-8 singers and 2 acoustic guitars. So, I will sing or play bass guitar depending on song / situation; my brain hurts if I try to do both. :lol:
The age group of the members is from about 30 to 60+; the plan is to give some music to the residents in the local nursing homes. Probably not necessary to say, but this is a charity thing so we are all volunteers.

I don't know how to describe the musical style :) so...
The set list is (not my choice as I'm the newest mbr):

Beautiful Sunday
Michael row the boat ashore
Nowhere Man (The Beatles)
Yesterday (The Beatles)
You are my Sunshine (Gene Autry)
Sealed with a Kiss
Que Sera Sera (Doris Day)
What a wonderful world (Louis Armstrong)
Hello Dolly (Louis Armstrong)
That's Amore (Dean Martin)
Can't help falling in Love (Elvis)
Whole World in His Hands

So, I'm thinking I'll use the acoustic bass as the look will suit, it will require amplification I know. But it will match with the acoustic guitars in look and hopefully the tone will suit as well. I'm thinking I won't need much volume but I will see how things go and will maybe introduce an electric at some stage. I have some option for amps now which is good. I bought a kitchen sponge at woollies, cut a slice off and am experimenting on the Challenge with that in ahead of the bridge. Interesting change, and not seen under the ashtray.

So, this is the first time ever for me (apart from Church choir) - do you have any hints, tips or warnings I should be aware of?

My plan is baby steps, have some fun, try a few things and practice.
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Re: How to start

Post by slowlearner » 28 Jan 2016, 15:33

Hey Geoff, sounds like a fun way to start. Things to think about...

1. Play bass for every song - once you get the bass parts down, you'll be able to sing most parts of songs.
2. Find good tabs/recordings you can learn the original basslines from as much as possible. Guitar charts with chord rootnotes will suffice where there isn't a known bassline.
3. Practice the basslines along with a metronome or similar. You'll be creating the groove, so you need to be in time. This is a fundamental. Concentrating on being in time and playing a good groove will probably be make or break without a drum kit.
4. The acoustic bass sounds perfect for what you're doing.
5. Practice, practice, practice! Alone and with the guitar players.
6. If all that sounds too hard, find a local teacher who can help get you started.

Hope that helps. :)
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Re: How to start

Post by david1234 » 28 Jan 2016, 15:50

What Pete said.

Also: good on you for doing that for those residents! That's a class act already. Props.
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Re: How to start

Post by RedVee » 28 Jan 2016, 20:29

Thanks for the support guys.

Had practice tonight, did my best on the ones that we went through. Only one guitar tonight, found that the Ibanez is just a little too quiet - probably coped with 1 guitar... Almost :) it certainly looked the part though.

so I've ordered a soundhole block from Artist.com.au and hopefully it will arrive before next weeks practice and I'll bring the little Rumble along for a small boost along.

Looking to arrange extra practice with tonight's guitarist on the weekends.
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Re: How to start

Post by BassLine » 29 Jan 2016, 04:03

Those residents really love it when people make the effort to come to them to perform. The highlight of their week/month usually.

Great idea sitting down with the guitarist and getting help to work out a bass part. That was my only suggestion, other than smile and look like you're having fun.... esp if you're feeling nervous.

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Re: How to start

Post by veebass » 29 Jan 2016, 07:54

What a great thing to do. Well done.
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Re: How to start

Post by BazzBass » 29 Jan 2016, 11:06

you are doing a wonderful thing for those poor people stuck in a home.

Good karma is coming your way.

Acoustic basses are useless, but you know that, now hehe

Just relax and enjoy bringing joy to others, what can be more rewarding?
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Re: How to start

Post by RedVee » 05 Feb 2016, 11:53

I took the Challenge bass last night, with the little Rumble (just for ease of carrying). I put some sponge as a mute near the bridge to get the vintage thing happening. Got a complement from the guitarists after a couple of songs that having a bass involved helped. At the end of the night they just said they want me a bit louder... So, i hope that is good as well.

I struggled a little with 'Yesterday' ; it just didnt seem right to me. So, I'll do a little (lot) more practice on it and see if I can find an economic way to play it with a better result. I dont think the Mrs will loan me her violin bow to use on it for the Cello part. lol
Only had the lyrics (misprinted :)) with a chord letter above certain words, and only on the first verse and chorus.... so, i got a bit muddled trying to read the lines to sing and play along with the chords 3 inches up the page.

I'll do some prep work and practice. I'm assuming only a few thousand people have played a bassline on Yesterday before me - so there has to be a good way.
Anyone have any hints on Yesterday? or other sole guitar songs? I'll hit google as well.

cheers

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Re: How to start

Post by BazzBass » 05 Feb 2016, 12:30

here is the bass tab for yesterday,

http://www.bigbasstabs.com/beatles_bass ... erday.html

This TAB site is pretty good imho

in fact looking up ANY of Sir Paul's basslines is a joy , Something, Dear Prudence, Nowhere Man are amongst my faves.
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Re: How to start

Post by RedVee » 05 Feb 2016, 12:53

^ Thanks. I got a bass tab down at lunchtime after posting. This is quite different, both different to what I was trying). I'm keen to have a crack at them both.
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Re: How to start

Post by moik » 07 Feb 2016, 22:12

Here's the man himself playing it. Pretty basic bass line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRen3jDqViI

Note the walkdown in the chorus during "... had to go I don't know ..." and then the same at "... something's wrong now I long ..."
Would be pretty cool if you could get that.

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Re: How to start

Post by RedVee » 08 Feb 2016, 11:58

Thank Mike. I've only seen him playing guitar on it before. and "I'm no McCartney" :) but I'll have a go.
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Re: How to start

Post by RedVee » 09 Feb 2016, 22:06

Ok, a couple of questions re the acoustic.

1. I got the sound hole blocker fitted, but I still get bad feedback at home. At practice I'll make sure I'm a bit further away, the amp behind me etc. but I'm thinking of bring the zoom b2.1u with me to put into bypass mode just to get further away from the amp. Sensible or silly ???

2. Would playing with my thumb mainly give me a little more volume ??? I'm going to try that tomorrow.
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Re: How to start

Post by Ox Boris » 10 Feb 2016, 00:07

Dropping the mids on my amp cures the feedback from my Warwick Alien acoustic (no hole plugger).

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Re: How to start

Post by RedVee » 10 Feb 2016, 11:04

Ox Boris wrote:Dropping the mids on my amp cures the feedback from my Warwick Alien acoustic (no hole plugger).
thanks Ox Boris, I'll try that as well on the amp and the pre-amp as well.
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