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Build #3, 4, 5 ...

Post by Curto » 14 Dec 2017, 15:01

Well I don't think I'll ever see my BMT custom build. Dissapointed - yes, but not bitter. Gotta forgive and move on. Who knows, maybe he will send it one day?
In the meantime I've finally started on my own builds, after being inspired by the last GTG.
I've glued up the pieces and put them through the thicknesser. Routed the truss rod channels and started on the routes for the carbon fibre rods... until I lost control and the wood started to smoke. Looks like I need a new bit. Hopefully I can salvage my mistake.
Just started on the full size templates for the bodies and necks.

The first will be a 5 string fretless:
32" scale
Pale moon ebony fingerboard (unlined)
Roasted maple neck
White side dots for each fret position
Luminlay for the standard side dot positions
Swamp ash body
16.5mm spacing
El cheapo black hardware from eBay
EMG 40TWX pickup
La Bella black nylon tapewounds
Dunlop strap locks

The second will be a 5 string ling scale
35" scale (I played a Polaris and saw the light)
Multi laminate neck
Ebony fingerboard
Mandolin fretwire (24 frets)
Multi laminate offcuts body (there's even some spalted maple in there)
16.5mm string spacing
eBay sourced hardware from China
EMG MM5 TWX pickup
DR pure blues strings
Dunlop strap locks

The third and fourth will be a four string basses. Same specs but different scales
32" and 35"
Padouk/maple laminate neck
24 mandolin frets
16.5mm string spacing
Swamp ash body
EMG MM TWX pickup
Black hardwear
Hipshot bass xtender on the 35" one

I hope to have over the holiday break, at least one neck done. Any more will be a bonus.



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Re: Build #3, 4, 5 ...

Post by drbass » 14 Dec 2017, 15:37

Looks great, Paul! Quite ambitious to start 4 projects at once but hey, while you're at it ;) .

Love the pale moon ebony, will have to look into that myself (said that before when Pete - sneakyjak - showed off his stuff). Received some nice Koa boards which should work reasonably well as fretboards, and have a nice zebrine one as well.

I'll be watching with great interest how the multi-laminate body with the spalted maple works out.

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Michael
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Post by Curto » 14 Dec 2017, 17:07

At this stage I've just started on three. I'm still waiting for a wood order from Canada, who might have the world's slowest mail service?
I thought it worthwhile to do them at once. All the thicknessing at once, all the routing at once... etc. And hopefully, in the end I'll have at least one good one. Better still, four good ones and something I can pass on to my kids someday as something Dad made.



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Re: Build #3, 4, 5 ...

Post by narcdor » 14 Dec 2017, 17:19

Good on you! I hope they turn out well, looks like you’ve got some good ideas going there and some nice pieces to work with. I’ll be keeping track for sure!
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Re: Build #3, 4, 5 ...

Post by SneakyJak » 14 Dec 2017, 18:48

looking good!

Really like that the luthier discussions have got some life. love seeing the variations which I think speak volumes about the builders personality.

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Re: Build #3, 4, 5 ...

Post by Classic5 » 14 Dec 2017, 19:02

Great selection of wood there :thumbup:

It's good to see so much building going on. I can't even start to contemplate how you're going to juggle all those builds at once :lol:

My recommendation - please feel free to totally ignore it: Make one first and learn from your mistakes before you head into the next one :2c:

Looking forward to following your progress on these.
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Re: Build #3, 4, 5 ...

Post by narcdor » 14 Dec 2017, 19:17

Would the subject line indicate this is not your first rodeo? I assumed it did.

I agree about the personalities thing that’s why my builds have been a bit disjointed so far!
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Re: Build #3, 4, 5 ...

Post by RedVee » 14 Dec 2017, 19:49

Good work Paul. Looking forward to see these progress.
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Re: RE: Re: Build #3, 4, 5 ...

Post by Curto » 14 Dec 2017, 19:54


Classic5 wrote:
My recommendation - please feel free to totally ignore it: Make one first and learn from your mistakes before you head into the next one ...
That's good advice. I've done the prep work together. Once I purchase a new router bit and install the rods I'll be working on one neck at a time, then one body at a time.

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Re: RE: Re: Build #3, 4, 5 ...

Post by Curto » 14 Dec 2017, 20:17


narcdor wrote:Would the subject line indicate this is not your first rodeo? I assumed it did.
My first build was back in '96. That one was everything done by hand from scratch. Just recently I took it apart and reshaped the neck and body and installed a neck pickup. It got me thinking about doing another build. My second build was a joint effort. My part was just fretwork, cavity and neck routing, electronics, hardware and relic work and putting it all together.

So this time around, it's lumber to instrument all the way. Lots of work but also lots of fun. I'm making MDF templates, as I go this time, so future builds will be less tedious.

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Post by slowlearner » 15 Dec 2017, 06:07

:thumbup: :popcorn:
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Re: RE: Re: Build #3, 4, 5 ...

Post by Curto » 15 Dec 2017, 06:30

RedVee wrote:Good work Paul. Looking forward to see these progress.
Thanks Geoff. You're welcome to come aboard at anytime to work on your own build. I'm no expert but you're free to learn alongside me and use the tools.

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Re: Build #3, 4, 5 ...

Post by Curto » 15 Dec 2017, 06:54

I purchased the low profile truss rods from Stewmac along with the router bit and pilot & reamer.

The Low-profile Truss Rod fits a routed channel 1/4" wide x 3/8" deep. The Router Bit is designed to rout this channel. After the channel is routed, it needs to be modified to accommodate the metal housing that holds the adjusting nut. The Piloted Reamer is for making this modification.

To accommodate the truss rod's adjusting nut, a hole needs to be reamed at the adjustment end of the truss rod channel. This hole is 3/8" in diameter and 2" deep (not 1-1/2" as mentioned on their website).
TIP: Rout your truss rod channel before cutting your neck to shape. Working with a rectangular neck blank makes it easy to clamp the work in a vice and to set up a fence for routing a straight channel.
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Re: Build #3, 4, 5 ...

Post by Classic5 » 15 Dec 2017, 15:33

Curto wrote:
14 Dec 2017, 19:54
Classic5 wrote:
My recommendation - please feel free to totally ignore it: Make one first and learn from your mistakes before you head into the next one ...
That's good advice. I've done the prep work together. Once I purchase a new router bit and install the rods I'll be working on one neck at a time, then one body at a time.

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That actually sounds like a good strategy :thumbup:
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Re: RE: Re: Build #3, 4, 5 ...

Post by RedVee » 15 Dec 2017, 21:00

Curto wrote:
15 Dec 2017, 06:30
RedVee wrote:Good work Paul. Looking forward to see these progress.
Thanks Geoff. You're welcome to come aboard at anytime to work on your own build. I'm no expert but you're free to learn alongside me and use the tools.

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Thanks Paul, I may send through a couple of ideas soon.

Cheers.
Geoff
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