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by noplanb
14 Oct 2017, 21:56
Forum: Lutherie
Topic: DIY Refinish
Replies: 6
Views: 158

Re: DIY Refinish

I've used both Danish oil and Tung oil. Danish dries overnight in most weathers between coats, with a light sand in between as per directions on tin. Satin finish - the more coats the more lustrous. Tung goes on even thinner, and takes more coats to get some kind of noticeable finish - I found it ne...
by noplanb
13 Oct 2017, 19:25
Forum: Off Topics
Topic: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO
Replies: 1360
Views: 31203

Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

^ Yes, same from what I've seen - no surprises there. I think every government does the same smoke and mirrors on this.....
by noplanb
13 Oct 2017, 16:42
Forum: Off Topics
Topic: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO
Replies: 1360
Views: 31203

Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

"pretty much the logic you just gave us"
Ok, so which quotes/logic are you specifically referring to? I have quoted a lot of things right across the board from papers and studies to personal accounts.
by noplanb
12 Oct 2017, 23:25
Forum: Off Topics
Topic: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO
Replies: 1360
Views: 31203

Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

"Marriage is between adults, children are neither necessary not compulsory and occur independent of marriage." Each of those statements are correct of themselves. So why does marriage exist then? Who cares? (I'm trying to build a reasoning with you) There is something here about the state that we ne...
by noplanb
12 Oct 2017, 20:16
Forum: Off Topics
Topic: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO
Replies: 1360
Views: 31203

Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

"I'll state the fact again that marriage has nothing to do with children"
I think you'll need a bit more than that in the face of all the quotes I've made.
by noplanb
12 Oct 2017, 20:08
Forum: Off Topics
Topic: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO
Replies: 1360
Views: 31203

Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

"what exactly you mean by threatening rights at law of biological genders" (Remember - the below of course could happen in one way or another prior to any SSM being institutionalised - but when SSM is recognised as an institution at law, because it *IS* marriage, then there is no basis for male and ...
by noplanb
12 Oct 2017, 19:48
Forum: Off Topics
Topic: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO
Replies: 1360
Views: 31203

Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

"Sticking to just marriage, and not extrapolating," When SSM activists tried to disrupt those who (mistakenly) drove to a cancelled meeting regarding (un)SafeSchools Program in Sydney recently - were the activists extrapolating? or being off-topic? Of course, SSP extols the virtues of SSM - is that ...
by noplanb
12 Oct 2017, 14:17
Forum: Off Topics
Topic: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO
Replies: 1360
Views: 31203

Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

OK So you are against SS couples having access to adoption and IVF. This is currently legal and will be regardless of the outcome of the SSM debate. I'm not sure you understand that. "adoption" - no, I'm not against it if a child has no effective existing parents - better some parents than none "Th...
by noplanb
12 Oct 2017, 14:11
Forum: Off Topics
Topic: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO
Replies: 1360
Views: 31203

Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Ok but you're saying married is better than unmarried for children because marriage cements that bond... Remember, I never said that. But it is inferred, and I've already said as much, and that it does not necessarily transfer to SS, because the parents are not complementary sex. It is only one asp...
by noplanb
12 Oct 2017, 07:12
Forum: Off Topics
Topic: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO
Replies: 1360
Views: 31203

Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

So what you’re saying is if married MF parents are better for children than unmarried, that married SS are better for children than unmarried? No, because it fails the first prerequisite of requiring both M and F, just the same as asking, is there value to the child if a mother and her brother coul...
by noplanb
11 Oct 2017, 20:57
Forum: Off Topics
Topic: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO
Replies: 1360
Views: 31203

Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Once again - It has nothing to do with whether the parents are married or not. Are you saying that children of gay parents are better off if their parents aren't married? That makes no sense. I think you are pointing out an inference - but whether SS are married or not, it still fails the prime pre...
by noplanb
11 Oct 2017, 20:20
Forum: Off Topics
Topic: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO
Replies: 1360
Views: 31203

Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

" jumping 3.2 percentage points, from 14.9% to 18.2% "
Is that like taking one of Paul Keatings 'levers' (for those who remember), and using it to hit a quintile over the head with? :shrug:
by noplanb
11 Oct 2017, 18:37
Forum: Off Topics
Topic: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO
Replies: 1360
Views: 31203

Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

Same sex couples raising children is perfectly legal and not uncommon. As are these groups raising children: divorced and/or single parents; 2 aunts; 2 uncles; mother and a relative of either sex; father and a relative of either sex. But none of the above groups nor SSM have all of the essential fa...
by noplanb
11 Oct 2017, 13:18
Forum: Off Topics
Topic: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO
Replies: 1360
Views: 31203

Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

"allow them the freedoms" I note what you are saying, and I wished that some civil union other than marriage would suffice. Katy Faust, brought up by two female parents, has a lot to say about this on her original website, https://askthebigot.com/ and much more about how children are affected by the...
by noplanb
11 Oct 2017, 12:30
Forum: Off Topics
Topic: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO
Replies: 1360
Views: 31203

Re: Political Coverage By the Media in Our Country - PART TWO

"Same sex couples have children now" Yes they do, and I do wish all the best to them and their children. And the vote is also not directly about effects on children of divorce, separation, donor gamete children etc. The connection is that, what is proposed, is effectively not a redefinition of marri...